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Post by nfld77 on Apr 5, 2024 14:31:12 GMT -5
I agree but also add it's alot of players on the Bruins team that needs to get their act together, not always Jake's fault..Coyle lost 13 of 15 faceoffs, that hurts alot more than anyone is talking about.. As for Heiny, I would offer him a 2 yr $4 million deal, 2 mil a season, not sure if thats enough..Bruins gave him a 2 yr contract in 2019 paying him 2.8 million a season for 2 years, maybe thats closer to his number..Sure be anxious to see how it works out for him but he damn well deserves a raise.. Considering his age, I would offer DeBrusk a contract very similar to Zacha, 4yrs at 4.5 million a season..IF he dont accept, I HIGHLY doubt he'll get more than that anywhere else and if he's offered same contract in Calgary or EDM, I think he'll stay put..He said on several occasions he wants to stay in Boston. He;ll be close to 20 goals 50 pts at seasons end on a bad year at that and if he has a good playoff, who knows but the Zacha deal is my bottom line for sure!! Plus don't players take a pay "Cut" when playing for a Canadian team i.e. taxes?🤷♂️🏒 Kev, I might be wrong but I believe that was changed several years ago..I believe everything is in American dollars, every contract a player signs..Not 100% sure, maybe someone here knows more about contracts to players on Canadian teams.. |
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Post by madmarx on Apr 5, 2024 14:38:50 GMT -5
Heinen is going to chew up more than I originally thought on a new deal, that is for sure! Have to see how the playoffs go but I can't imagine a scenario where he isn't back after the year he has had. I think because Sweeney was willing to give him a PTO he might feel obliged to stay 🤷♂️ |
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Post by madmarx on Apr 5, 2024 14:40:07 GMT -5
I agree but also add it's alot of players on the Bruins team that needs to get their act together, not always Jake's fault..Coyle lost 13 of 15 faceoffs, that hurts alot more than anyone is talking about.. As for Heiny, I would offer him a 2 yr $4 million deal, 2 mil a season, not sure if thats enough..Bruins gave him a 2 yr contract in 2019 paying him 2.8 million a season for 2 years, maybe thats closer to his number..Sure be anxious to see how it works out for him but he damn well deserves a raise.. Considering his age, I would offer DeBrusk a contract very similar to Zacha, 4yrs at 4.5 million a season..IF he dont accept, I HIGHLY doubt he'll get more than that anywhere else and if he's offered same contract in Calgary or EDM, I think he'll stay put..He said on several occasions he wants to stay in Boston. He;ll be close to 20 goals 50 pts at seasons end on a bad year at that and if he has a good playoff, who knows but the Zacha deal is my bottom line for sure!! Plus don't players take a pay "Cut" when playing for a Canadian team i.e. taxes?🤷♂️🏒 They usually get over paided due to the taxes . |
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Post by nfld77 on Apr 5, 2024 14:42:15 GMT -5
I agree but also add it's alot of players on the Bruins team that needs to get their act together, not always Jake's fault..Coyle lost 13 of 15 faceoffs, that hurts alot more than anyone is talking about.. As for Heiny, I would offer him a 2 yr $4 million deal, 2 mil a season, not sure if thats enough..Bruins gave him a 2 yr contract in 2019 paying him 2.8 million a season for 2 years, maybe thats closer to his number..Sure be anxious to see how it works out for him but he damn well deserves a raise.. Considering his age, I would offer DeBrusk a contract very similar to Zacha, 4yrs at 4.5 million a season..IF he dont accept, I HIGHLY doubt he'll get more than that anywhere else and if he's offered same contract in Calgary or EDM, I think he'll stay put..He said on several occasions he wants to stay in Boston. He;ll be close to 20 goals 50 pts at seasons end on a bad year at that and if he has a good playoff, who knows but the Zacha deal is my bottom line for sure!! Plus don't players take a pay "Cut" when playing for a Canadian team i.e. taxes?🤷♂️🏒 One more thing, Zacha is producing much more than Jake so maybe 4.5 a season is too much if you compare what Zacha brings to the table compare to Jake..He's so damn inconsistant..Jakes now 5 games without a point after posting 11 pts in 10 games..He's always been inconsistant and I think it'll cost him this contract..IF he dont produce in the playoffs, I would spend whatever DeBrusk would get on another forward cause right now his value is about the same as Heinen, Geekie, Frederic and none of those guys are getting 4 million..And you HAVE to consider Jake was on top 6 all season while those other players were not BUT still producing as much as DeBrusk..
www.espn.com/nhl/team/stats/_/name/bos/table/team/sort/points/dir/desc
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Post by madmarx on Apr 5, 2024 14:47:00 GMT -5
Wonder how Tort’s would handle a Player like Jake , I think he would have been traded already 🤷♂️ I agree but also add it's alot of players on the Bruins team that needs to get their act together, not always Jake's fault..Coyle lost 13 of 15 faceoffs, that hurts alot more than anyone is talking about.. As for Heiny, I would offer him a 2 yr $4 million deal, 2 mil a season, not sure if thats enough..Bruins gave him a 2 yr contract in 2019 paying him 2.8 million a season for 2 years, maybe thats closer to his number..Sure be anxious to see how it works out for him but he damn well deserves a raise.. Considering his age, I would offer DeBrusk a contract very similar to Zacha, 4yrs at 4.5 million a season..IF he dont accept, I HIGHLY doubt he'll get more than that anywhere else and if he's offered same contract in Calgary or EDM, I think he'll stay put..He said on several occasions he wants to stay in Boston. He;ll be close to 20 goals 50 pts at seasons end on a bad year at that and if he has a good playoff, who knows but the Zacha deal is my bottom line for sure!! I think that’s the big Question mark I have for this team , while Jake’s an easy target he has plenty of company on the on any given night . |
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Post by fforr on Apr 5, 2024 17:02:40 GMT -5
Think the writing’s on the wall with Jake. Hope he’s all in for the rest of the regular season and however the playoffs might play out.
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Post by nfld77 on Apr 5, 2024 17:08:20 GMT -5
I agree but also add it's alot of players on the Bruins team that needs to get their act together, not always Jake's fault..Coyle lost 13 of 15 faceoffs, that hurts alot more than anyone is talking about.. As for Heiny, I would offer him a 2 yr $4 million deal, 2 mil a season, not sure if thats enough..Bruins gave him a 2 yr contract in 2019 paying him 2.8 million a season for 2 years, maybe thats closer to his number..Sure be anxious to see how it works out for him but he damn well deserves a raise.. Considering his age, I would offer DeBrusk a contract very similar to Zacha, 4yrs at 4.5 million a season..IF he dont accept, I HIGHLY doubt he'll get more than that anywhere else and if he's offered same contract in Calgary or EDM, I think he'll stay put..He said on several occasions he wants to stay in Boston. He;ll be close to 20 goals 50 pts at seasons end on a bad year at that and if he has a good playoff, who knows but the Zacha deal is my bottom line for sure!! I think that’s the big Question mark I have for this team , while Jake’s an easy target he has plenty of company on the on any given night .
Pointwise Debrusk, Geekie,Heiny,JVR all have around same pts BUT Jake played most of yr on top line or at least top 6..He's making about same as Boqvist,Geekie, JVR and Heinen COMBINED!!!! Thats 4 players!! Madmarx, when you take into consideration what our 3rd lines players are making compared to JD, I totally understand the frustration from so many, not just here and I',m beginning to lean toward letting him walk unless something drastic happens between now and end of playoffs..Yes Bruins have other problems beside Jakes inconsistancy but it is a problem if he's considered a top 6 player or being paid like one.. |
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Post by madmarx on Apr 5, 2024 17:20:32 GMT -5
Here’s the scouting report off Capfriendly on Jake while not gospel pretty accurate in my mind
Streaky forward who produces offense in bunches.
Strong skater. Can be a threat off the rush or disrupt plays up ice as F1 on the forecheck.
Not overly physical. Has some bump, but at his best when tenacious along the boards trying to win pucks back / extend plays.
Leans shooter more than distributor.
Used in all situations. In between 3F and 2F depending on consistency throughout the year.
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Post by nfld77 on Apr 5, 2024 17:52:59 GMT -5
Here’s the scouting report off Capfriendly on Jake while not gospel pretty accurate in my mind
Streaky forward who produces offense in bunches.Strong skater. Can be a threat off the rush or disrupt plays up ice as F1 on the forecheck. Not overly physical. Has some bump, but at his best when tenacious along the boards trying to win pucks back / extend plays. Leans shooter more than distributor. Used in all situations. In between 3F and 2F depending on consistency throughout the year. Number one is his biggest downfall and "Not overly physical " is putting it lightly.. Some games he can look so good especially when he uses his speed and gets pucks out of the corner. When he dont use his speed it looks like he's gliding out there, entirely different player..Split personality?? Lol I dunno but he can play like a different player on seperate nights..Hope we get the good Jake here on out especially postseason..If not, maybe he needs a fresh start elsewhere!! |
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Post by madmarx on Apr 5, 2024 19:12:35 GMT -5
Here’s the scouting report off Capfriendly on Jake while not gospel pretty accurate in my mind
Streaky forward who produces offense in bunches.Strong skater. Can be a threat off the rush or disrupt plays up ice as F1 on the forecheck. Not overly physical. Has some bump, but at his best when tenacious along the boards trying to win pucks back / extend plays. Leans shooter more than distributor. Used in all situations. In between 3F and 2F depending on consistency throughout the year. Number one is his biggest downfall and "Not overly physical " is putting it lightly.. Some games he can look so good especially when he uses his speed and gets pucks out of the corner. When he dont use his speed it looks like he's gliding out there, entirely different player..Split personality?? Lol I dunno but he can play like a different player on seperate nights..Hope we get the good Jake here on out especially postseason..If not, maybe he needs a fresh start elsewhere!! He didn’t buy into what Z Bergy and Marchand are selling in being a Pro 🤷♂️ |
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Post by fforr on Apr 5, 2024 20:37:56 GMT -5
Number one is his biggest downfall and "Not overly physical " is putting it lightly.. Some games he can look so good especially when he uses his speed and gets pucks out of the corner. When he dont use his speed it looks like he's gliding out there, entirely different player..Split personality?? Lol I dunno but he can play like a different player on seperate nights..Hope we get the good Jake here on out especially postseason..If not, maybe he needs a fresh start elsewhere!! He didn’t buy into what Z Bergy and Marchand are selling in being a Pro 🤷♂️ Same type of thing with Riley Smith and Dougie Hamilton I believe. |
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Post by kjc2 on Apr 5, 2024 22:21:07 GMT -5
Number one is his biggest downfall and "Not overly physical " is putting it lightly.. Some games he can look so good especially when he uses his speed and gets pucks out of the corner. When he dont use his speed it looks like he's gliding out there, entirely different player..Split personality?? Lol I dunno but he can play like a different player on seperate nights..Hope we get the good Jake here on out especially postseason..If not, maybe he needs a fresh start elsewhere!! He didn’t buy into what Z Bergy and Marchand are selling in being a Pro 🤷♂️ Being a pro or being that same player on the ice every game is in my opinion about ritual. Same food, same rest, same gym time, your whole life is about routine and balance. Most people can’t achieve that to the level of Z, Bergie or Brad but the willingness to adopt the life style is the first step. Jake has to do all those things to be at his best 90% of the time instead of 45%. |
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Post by madmarx on Apr 6, 2024 7:26:54 GMT -5
He didn’t buy into what Z Bergy and Marchand are selling in being a Pro 🤷♂️ Being a pro or being that same player on the ice every game is in my opinion about ritual. Same food, same rest, same gym time, your whole life is about routine and balance. Most people can’t achieve that to the level of Z, Bergie or Brad but the willingness to adopt the life style is the first step. Jake has to do all those things to be at his best 90% of the time instead of 45%. Exactly well said hopefully he reads this thread this morning 😉 |
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Post by nfld77 on Apr 6, 2024 15:06:26 GMT -5
Being a pro or being that same player on the ice every game is in my opinion about ritual. Same food, same rest, same gym time, your whole life is about routine and balance. Most people can’t achieve that to the level of Z, Bergie or Brad but the willingness to adopt the life style is the first step. Jake has to do all those things to be at his best 90% of the time instead of 45%. Exactly well said hopefully he reads this thread this morning 😉 Tough NOT to agree with that statement..Perfectly said. |
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