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Post by SeaBass on Jun 20, 2023 12:05:37 GMT -5
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Post by orym on Jun 20, 2023 12:13:55 GMT -5
If it comes down to Ullmark or Sway, think Ullmark’s the guy. You're probably right, but if I were DS, I'd be putting feelers out there with teams that have goaltending issues. I like Ullmark, but his stock is high right now and we could probably get a good return for him...as well as some much needed cap breathing room. I'd trade Ullmark in a heartbeat. I think he is a fantastic goalie. But so is Swayman. The return for Ullmark could be excellent and provide the cap room we need as well. Super risky but I'd have to think a lot of fans would understand it if DS pulled the trigger.
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Post by kjc2 on Jun 20, 2023 18:32:24 GMT -5
Players always seem so oblivious to management’s situation. Does he even realize that he’s probably the prime candidate to be traded this summer. Sweeney has very few options and money has to go out. Linus had a great year and he probably thinks it makes him safe but he could get a shock very soon.
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Post by fforr on Jun 20, 2023 20:20:34 GMT -5
Players always seem so oblivious to management’s situation. Does he even realize that he’s probably the prime candidate to be traded this summer. Sweeney has very few options and money has to go out. Linus had a great year and he probably thinks it makes him safe but he could get a shock very soon. A nice interview by a very decent, personable and articulate guy who’s had a great year and is probably going to win the Vezina. Pretty smart fellow as well who has a 16 team no trade clause in his back pocket for next season and 15 team one for his last year. Too bad the players have to be the ones who pay the price.
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Post by madmarx on Jun 23, 2023 11:22:43 GMT -5
Maybe this is the rumour of the Bruins doing something big July 1st ?
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Post by kjc2 on Jun 23, 2023 15:05:37 GMT -5
Maybe this is the rumour of the Bruins doing something big July 1st ? Ully out?
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Post by kjc2 on Jun 23, 2023 15:29:07 GMT -5
Winnipeg will need a goalie but I hope this wouldn’t be opening the door to a Dubois deal.
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Post by kjc2 on Jun 23, 2023 17:41:14 GMT -5
I hate that I’m actually thinking about this. Grz or Forbort plus Ullmark for Dubois? Money off the books and an asset that can be traded to La?
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Post by madmarx on Jun 23, 2023 19:40:17 GMT -5
Maybe this is the rumour of the Bruins doing something big July 1st ? Ully out? Something big no more Hugs .
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Post by madmarx on Dec 14, 2023 14:55:18 GMT -5
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Post by nfld77 on Dec 14, 2023 15:10:26 GMT -5
Dont npormally agree with Milbury but I do on this one..A Hard YES from me Madmarx..
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Post by crafar01 on Dec 14, 2023 15:22:04 GMT -5
I've been saying this since before the season started. This team badly needs a restock whether that's picks, or a young NHL ready player, or two and, unfortunately, Ullmark is their only real asset that will net that kind of return. Between Swayman and Bussi, we look to be pretty well set in net, so I don't know that there is going to be a better time than now, or sometime this season anyway. And this doesn't come from any place other than looking out for the future of the team, I really like Ullmark, but it is the reality of the business.
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Post by madmarx on Dec 14, 2023 15:47:40 GMT -5
I think the demand for a number one Goalie has never been higher , risky move but I think the return should be worth it.
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Post by crafar01 on Dec 14, 2023 17:58:54 GMT -5
I think the demand for a number one Goalie has never been higher , risky move but I think the return should be worth it. I absolutely agree, hell, TNT was talking about NJ not having much faith in their two tenders. Them, EDM and a couple of others really need help in net.
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Post by RascalHoudi on Dec 14, 2023 18:25:03 GMT -5
Yes... BUT... There is obviously risk involved, but Bussi looks ready for his next step and DiPietro has been playing very good lately as well- so depth is looking pretty good at that position. Do you bundle up Ullmark, DeBrusk and Gryzlyk and swing for the fences???
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Post by crafar01 on Dec 14, 2023 18:29:40 GMT -5
Yes... BUT... There is obviously risk involved, but Bussi looks ready for his next step and DiPietro has been playing very good lately as well- so depth is looking pretty good at that position. Do you bundle up Ullmark, DeBrusk and Gryzlyk and swing for the fences??? Yup and the return would have to be at least a #1 center that is relatively young, under 30 ideally and maybe some toughness or a pick, or two. The longer the teams that need grade A goaltending spiral, the more desperate they'll become. For once, DS should be holding all the cards - we look solid in goal for now and the future and we're positioned well in this year's standings. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to parley that into a substantial return. Edit: And to clarify, I don't dislike DeBrusk, or Grz, it'll just take more than Ullmark to get what we need and given both players' contract status, that makes them probably the best candidates for inclusion.
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Post by madmarx on Dec 14, 2023 18:35:04 GMT -5
Yes... BUT... There is obviously risk involved, but Bussi looks ready for his next step and DiPietro has been playing very good lately as well- so depth is looking pretty good at that position. Do you bundle up Ullmark, DeBrusk and Gryzlyk and swing for the fences??? Yes but the whole league needs to know, can’t be a Joe Thornton part two . Start a bidding war .
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Post by kjc2 on Dec 14, 2023 21:20:16 GMT -5
Yes to trading Ullmark. I really wanted it to happen over the summer, I softened on the idea when we got off to an amazing start but now we’re back down to earth. We have injuries but our weaknesses were already starting to show before those injuries. We’re 5-4-1 in the last 10, the time is now and Ullmark’s stock is still very high.
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 14, 2023 23:22:02 GMT -5
The only problem I see is…
He has a modified no trade clause. 16 teams I believe.
If he goes to a team that thinks he is the missing piece all we are getting is picks and dead weight.
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Post by orym on Dec 15, 2023 9:50:39 GMT -5
The only problem I see is… He has a modified no trade clause. 16 teams I believe. If he goes to a team that thinks he is the missing piece all we are getting is picks and dead weight. I think he is very tough to trade with that modified NTC right at this moment and don't really see him being dealt this season. He's probably easier to trade if you sign Swayman and tell Ullmark he is now the 1B, 30-35 games a year and not going to be really building a strong resume for a big extension if he stays with us headed into next season ("for your own good we are trading you away" kind of thing!). As bad as we think Edmonton's goaltending has been, I think they still see a path forward with Campbell and Skinner (Skinner rattled off 7 wins in a row before last night's loss to TB). Worried about the return as well now. I don't think it can be for only picks and prospects. It needs to be a good mix of making us better now and giving us some potential upside in future years. A #1C would be great but not sure team's are giving them away! I'd love love love to see us pluck Draisaitl but it's a total pipe dream I think!
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Post by kjc2 on Dec 15, 2023 11:51:10 GMT -5
No doubt the return has to be right but if we do nothing our record will slowly erode and we’ll be a bubble team before we know it. (IMHO) Also everyone thinks they have a #1 goalie over the summer months and the desperation on that front is way down.
Also maybe we really shouldn’t be thinking we’re a contender this season and be willing to take some young assets.
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Post by madmarx on Dec 15, 2023 11:53:17 GMT -5
The first move is extend Swayman .
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Post by kjc2 on Dec 15, 2023 11:59:44 GMT -5
The first move is extend Swayman . Yes, Sweeney needs to get on that. You never know how Swayman is feeling about last year’s arbitration, he wasn’t happy afterwards and might have some lingering hard feelings. He also seems to be mixing it up with some opposing players in his crease this year. I like it but I’m not sure if it’s a good thing or not.
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 15, 2023 12:05:05 GMT -5
The first move is extend Swayman . Yes, Sweeney needs to get on that. You never know how Swayman is feeling about last year’s arbitration, he wasn’t happy afterwards and might have some lingering hard feelings. He also seems to be mixing it up with some opposing players in his crease this year. I like it but I’m not sure if it’s a good thing or not. Plus I don't think he was happy the day Monty pulled him to try and get the team going.
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Post by madmarx on Dec 15, 2023 12:15:31 GMT -5
If we deal Linus in order to get the most for him it has to be a deadline deal .
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Post by kjc2 on Dec 15, 2023 19:40:50 GMT -5
If we deal Linus in order to get the most for him it has to be a deadline deal . Agree unless we’re spiraling in Jan or Feb.
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Post by KSJ08 on Dec 18, 2023 7:42:25 GMT -5
Anyone else think Linus is flipping & flopping more then previously?? I do & that is a sign of not tracking the puck like Sway is. Looks like lack of confidence. Just my observations as of late ?
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Post by madmarx on Dec 18, 2023 10:39:33 GMT -5
Anyone else think Linus is flipping & flopping more then previously?? I do & that is a sign of not tracking the puck like Sway is. Looks like lack of confidence. Just my observations as of late ? I noticed it a little bit lately
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Post by orym on Dec 18, 2023 12:45:18 GMT -5
Anyone else think Linus is flipping & flopping more then previously?? I do & that is a sign of not tracking the puck like Sway is. Looks like lack of confidence. Just my observations as of late ? I noticed it a little bit lately He looks like a big Tim Thomas in there a lot more lately! Can't remember who mentioned that on the board here first but I totally see it!
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Post by madmarx on Dec 18, 2023 12:47:50 GMT -5
I noticed it a little bit lately He looks like a big Tim Thomas in there a lot more lately! Can't remember who mentioned that on the board here first but I totally see it! 👀
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