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Post by SeaBass on May 1, 2023 15:48:20 GMT -5
@nhlbruins . Like all teams ; players grit it out to play through major injuries in the Playoffs. My sources tell me soon to be Vezina G Ullmark was playing through a debilitating & painful injury that limited his mobility and technique. He shouldn’t have played then ? Exactly. Gee, I can't skate. Maybe you should let me be the starting center.
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Post by madmarx on May 1, 2023 16:49:07 GMT -5
@nhlbruins . Like all teams ; players grit it out to play through major injuries in the Playoffs. My sources tell me soon to be Vezina G Ullmark was playing through a debilitating & painful injury that limited his mobility and technique. He shouldn’t have played then ? Exactly. Gee, I can't skate. Maybe you should let me be the starting center. Not a fan of Monty deflecting the decisions to Goalie Coach Bob .
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Post by kjc2 on May 1, 2023 17:14:41 GMT -5
@nhlbruins . Like all teams ; players grit it out to play through major injuries in the Playoffs. My sources tell me soon to be Vezina G Ullmark was playing through a debilitating & painful injury that limited his mobility and technique. He shouldn’t have played then ? Absolutely Ullmark shouldn’t have played. Swayman wasn’t some mid season AHL call up, he was a legit 1A. He had an outstanding season. If this is a fact it makes me even more sick.
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Post by kjc2 on May 1, 2023 17:28:37 GMT -5
Exactly. Gee, I can't skate. Maybe you should let me be the starting center. Not a fan of Monty deflecting the decisions to Goalie Coach Bob . A coach has to take responsibility at all times, goalie Bob is an advisor at best. Regardless of his injury, Ullmark should have got the hook after game five. I watched his post game interview after game 5, he was a mess. Monte was the playoff rookie and it showed in every aspect.
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Post by kjc2 on May 1, 2023 17:33:24 GMT -5
I’m curious if Lindholm was injured or not. His seven games were not even close to what he is capable of. I wouldn’t use the word brutal but he played like a third pairing guy not a guy that may get some Norris trophy votes.
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Post by SeaBass on May 1, 2023 17:42:14 GMT -5
I am concerned about the debilitating part.
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Post by madmarx on May 1, 2023 19:15:39 GMT -5
I am concerned about the debilitating part. Hearing torn hip
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Post by madmarx on May 1, 2023 19:16:17 GMT -5
I’m curious if Lindholm was injured or not. His seven games were not even close to what he is capable of. I wouldn’t use the word brutal but he played like a third pairing guy not a guy that may get some Norris trophy votes. Casper invisible
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Post by fforr on May 1, 2023 21:06:22 GMT -5
I’ve been thinking that the deadline additions played a part in the demise. Not so much them personally because they played well for the most part. However since the deadline and through the series it’s been a constant of throwing guys in the blender and seeing what comes out both on D and up front. Think it upset the apple cart a bit and even to the point where it neutered some guys to a certain extent. Guys like Jake, Frederick, Clifton, maybe even Lindholm seemed to be just a shell of themselves in the series.
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Post by kovs on May 1, 2023 21:27:16 GMT -5
I just can't....I have followed Bergy since his first exhibition game. So I havent quite processed this. I just woke up after sleeping the entire day--I worked yesterday and then watched this sorry game. I have a lot to say, especially about the goal tending decisions, the Defence and the fact that Monty continues his "this is all fine" mantra. Dude--maybe tell us you're ready to fight, maybe tell us it's a hungry team, maybe say....all hands on deck? Not "everythings fine" Anyway. I'm not quite there yet with my emotions. I really just came in to feel my blood flow again.
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Post by nfld77 on May 1, 2023 21:39:36 GMT -5
I just can't....I have followed Bergy since his first exhibition game. So I havent quite processed this. I just woke up after sleeping the entire day--I worked yesterday and then watched this sorry game. I have a lot to say, especially about the goal tending decisions, the Defence and the fact that Monty continues his "this is all fine" mantra. Dude--maybe tell us you're ready to fight, maybe tell us it's a hungry team, maybe say....all hands on desk? Not "everythings fine" Anyway. I'm not quite there yet with my emotions. I really just came in to feel my blood flow again. Whatever way you feel, remember you have lots of company swwet girl..Vent on if you have too, I know the boss here and he wont mind.lol
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Post by nfld77 on May 1, 2023 21:42:41 GMT -5
I’ve been thinking that the deadline additions played a part in the demise. Not so much them personally because they played well for the most part. However since the deadline and through the series it’s been a constant of throwing guys in the blender and seeing what comes out both on D and up front. Think it upset the apple cart a bit and even to the point where it neutered some guys to a certain extent. Guys like Jake, Frederick, Clifton, maybe even Lindholm seemed to be just a shell of themselves in the series. Before we acquired all those players, our record was incredible so WHY mess with such a good thing?? Bring in some depth players I would understand but too many changes in my opinion even though they played well especially Bertuzzi..Now their desire to stay in Boston is nowhere close to what it might have been..
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Post by fforr on May 2, 2023 7:44:37 GMT -5
I’ve been thinking that the deadline additions played a part in the demise. Not so much them personally because they played well for the most part. However since the deadline and through the series it’s been a constant of throwing guys in the blender and seeing what comes out both on D and up front. Think it upset the apple cart a bit and even to the point where it neutered some guys to a certain extent. Guys like Jake, Frederick, Clifton, maybe even Lindholm seemed to be just a shell of themselves in the series. Before we acquired all those players, our record was incredible so WHY mess with such a good thing?? Bring in some depth players I would understand but too many changes in my opinion even though they played well especially Bertuzzi..Now their desire to stay in Boston is nowhere close to what it might have been.. Think it’s worse than that. Think they were always going to be just rentals, maybe Hathaway, there’s no money or term for them here. We’re out 2 1sts, a 2nd, 3rd and 4th at a time when some rebuilding is called for. Should have given Zboril and some Providence guys more of a chance to gain confidence as they’re on their way to records. He’ll, even Smitty would’ve helped. Can’t imagine Clifton’s resigning.
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Post by orym on May 2, 2023 9:24:50 GMT -5
Before we acquired all those players, our record was incredible so WHY mess with such a good thing?? Bring in some depth players I would understand but too many changes in my opinion even though they played well especially Bertuzzi..Now their desire to stay in Boston is nowhere close to what it might have been.. Think it’s worse than that. Think they were always going to be just rentals, maybe Hathaway, there’s no money or term for them here. We’re out 2 1sts, a 2nd, 3rd and 4th at a time when some rebuilding is called for. Should have given Zboril and some Providence guys more of a chance to gain confidence as they’re on their way to records. He’ll, even Smitty would’ve helped. Can’t imagine Clifton’s resigning. I was excited about a lot of the deals and thought the additions played well and fit the type of guys we needed for playoff hockey. When the chips were down though, no one was playing the right way. When we needed a big save or a bounce, we just didn't get it this year. It really sucks though because this is going to be a pretty exciting draft and we have no picks early and nothing to get excited about on that end of things. It's going to be a looooong wait for next season. Watching either Florida or the Leafs in the Eastern Conference Final is going to be very tough.
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Post by fforr on May 2, 2023 9:36:09 GMT -5
Think it’s worse than that. Think they were always going to be just rentals, maybe Hathaway, there’s no money or term for them here. We’re out 2 1sts, a 2nd, 3rd and 4th at a time when some rebuilding is called for. Should have given Zboril and some Providence guys more of a chance to gain confidence as they’re on their way to records. He’ll, even Smitty would’ve helped. Can’t imagine Clifton’s resigning. I was excited about a lot of the deals and thought the additions played well and fit the type of guys we needed for playoff hockey. When the chips were down though, no one was playing the right way. When we needed a big save or a bounce, we just didn't get it this year. It really sucks though because this is going to be a pretty exciting draft and we have no picks early and nothing to get excited about on that end of things. It's going to be a looooong wait for next season. Watching either Florida or the Leafs in the Eastern Conference Final is going to be very tough. You are correct! Let’s go Devils!
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Post by orym on May 2, 2023 9:54:16 GMT -5
I was excited about a lot of the deals and thought the additions played well and fit the type of guys we needed for playoff hockey. When the chips were down though, no one was playing the right way. When we needed a big save or a bounce, we just didn't get it this year. It really sucks though because this is going to be a pretty exciting draft and we have no picks early and nothing to get excited about on that end of things. It's going to be a looooong wait for next season. Watching either Florida or the Leafs in the Eastern Conference Final is going to be very tough. You are correct! Let’s go Devils! Yeah I'm by no means a big Devils fan but that's the team I'd prefer to come out of the East at this stage!
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Post by kovs on May 2, 2023 10:52:05 GMT -5
I’m curious if Lindholm was injured or not. His seven games were not even close to what he is capable of. I wouldn’t use the word brutal but he played like a third pairing guy not a guy that may get some Norris trophy votes. He mailed it in. Our D was brutal
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Post by kjc2 on May 2, 2023 12:33:46 GMT -5
I’m curious if Lindholm was injured or not. His seven games were not even close to what he is capable of. I wouldn’t use the word brutal but he played like a third pairing guy not a guy that may get some Norris trophy votes. He mailed it in. Our D was brutal 11 playoff games as a Bruin, 0 points and very underwhelming play. Very sad considering he is a very good player.
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Post by kjc2 on May 2, 2023 12:37:13 GMT -5
Other than 7 game devastating loss something really wreaks about it. I’m okay with giving Florida some credit but I think for the most part this was self inflicted. I’m really curious to hear from the exit interview process.
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Post by madmarx on May 2, 2023 15:04:17 GMT -5
Other than 7 game devastating loss something really wreaks about it. I’m okay with giving Florida some credit but I think for the most part this was self inflicted. I’m really curious to hear from the exit interview process. What hell happened to O-Dog ? Something really weird happened on the flight back to Boston for game five .
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Post by kjc2 on May 2, 2023 15:36:47 GMT -5
Other than 7 game devastating loss something really wreaks about it. I’m okay with giving Florida some credit but I think for the most part this was self inflicted. I’m really curious to hear from the exit interview process. What hell happened to O-Dog ? Something really weird happened on the flight back to Boston for game five . Was it something they said today? I haven’t caught it in the last few episodes. I got today’s show on now.
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Post by madmarx on May 2, 2023 15:38:21 GMT -5
What hell happened to O-Dog ? Something really weird happened on the flight back to Boston for game five . Was it something they said today? I haven’t caught it in the last few episodes. I got today’s show on now. He’s been off the show for a week or more , they haven’t said a word.
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Post by kjc2 on May 2, 2023 15:52:14 GMT -5
Was it something they said today? I haven’t caught it in the last few episodes. I got today’s show on now. He’s been off the show for a week or more , they haven’t said a word. If they’re not talking about it something went horribly wrong. Maybe something like Shawn McKenzie last year.
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Post by madmarx on May 2, 2023 15:54:42 GMT -5
He’s been off the show for a week or more , they haven’t said a word. If they’re not talking about it something went horribly wrong. Maybe something like Shawn McKenzie last year. Gotta be killing him with what the Leafs are doing.
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Post by KSJ08 on May 2, 2023 16:04:30 GMT -5
Other than 7 game devastating loss something really wreaks about it. I’m okay with giving Florida some credit but I think for the most part this was self inflicted. I’m really curious to hear from the exit interview process. I kept saying give aways were killing them. Then I read after gm 7 they had 88, 88 give aways in last 3 games.!! When Marchy didn't score on the last second + break away in gm 5 I had a VERY bad feeling BUT kept hoping it will turn in the next 3 gms!! Swayman should've started gm 6 %100 why he didn't is beyond belief. Everyone could see Linus was struggling W/injury or confidence, I truly believe injury. We had a historic reg season BUT like I told many of friends "it really don't matter IF the don't raise LSC!!" and they won't!!😭🤢🤮 But as previous "Prez Cup Winners" have gone on to better fates, eh!?!?! Let's hope the loafs can't heard CATS like the Bruins couldn't in gm 5-7!!!!!
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Post by kjc2 on May 2, 2023 16:20:15 GMT -5
Other than 7 game devastating loss something really wreaks about it. I’m okay with giving Florida some credit but I think for the most part this was self inflicted. I’m really curious to hear from the exit interview process. I kept saying give aways were killing them. Then I read after gm 7 they had 88, 88 give aways in last 3 games.!! When Marchy didn't score on the last second + break away in gm 5 I had a VERY bad feeling BUT kept hoping it will turn in the next 3 gms!! Swayman should've started gm 6 %100 why he didn't is beyond belief. Everyone could see Linus was struggling W/injury or confidence, I truly believe injury. We had a historic reg season BUT like I told many of friends "it really don't matter IF the don't raise LSC!!" and they won't!!😭🤢🤮 But as previous "Prez Cup Winners" have gone on to better fates, eh!?!?! Let's hope the loafs can't heard CATS like the Bruins couldn't in gm 5-7!!!!! It feels like every aspect of our game fell off. We were flat for parts of at least 6 games. Ullmark was playing hurt I think, at least I’ve heard different unofficial sources say it and as you said, you could see it in his movements. Which begs the question, Why did we not go with Swayman in game 1. There’s a lot to unpack from that whole mess. 😞
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Post by kovs on May 2, 2023 16:32:23 GMT -5
Ok, I'm over being depressed, now I'm just mad. Can someone explain why Ullmark is playing if hes hurt? Honestly, if I'm Swayman, I take the fastest contract out of town. What a fuck you finger in his face to not play him. The tandem was good all year, wtf?
Why mess with the lines again and again--theres no magic bullet. Minus injury, we just keep them set. WHY was Monty saying "Oh everythings fine" like hes fucking kidding anyone? Two hurt superstar centers, a ghosr of a defense and a hurt goalie--everything is not fine....
and Ullmark should have disclosed the amount of pain he was in--it cost us the Cup and I vote to have him traded. cuz seriously, fuck you thats all about your ego, MF.
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Post by madmarx on May 2, 2023 16:53:34 GMT -5
Ok, I'm over being depressed, now I'm just mad. Can someone explain why Ullmark is playing if hes hurt? Honestly, if I'm Swayman, I take the fastest contract out of town. What a fuck you finger in his face to not play him. The tandem was good all year, wtf? Why mess with the lines again and again--theres no magic bullet. Minus injury, we just keep them set. WHY was Monty saying "Oh everythings fine" like hes fucking kidding anyone? Two hurt superstar centers, a ghosr of a defense and a hurt goalie--everything is not fine.... and Ullmark should have disclosed the amount of pain he was in--it cost us the Cup and I vote to have him traded. cuz seriously, fuck you thats all about your ego, MF. Someone leaked Linus’s injury to Kevin Weekes likely his agent . Everything changed for the worse on after game four , hopefully in time we learn the truth cause that’s all I need .
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Post by kjc2 on May 2, 2023 17:59:01 GMT -5
Ok, I'm over being depressed, now I'm just mad. Can someone explain why Ullmark is playing if hes hurt? Honestly, if I'm Swayman, I take the fastest contract out of town. What a fuck you finger in his face to not play him. The tandem was good all year, wtf? Why mess with the lines again and again--theres no magic bullet. Minus injury, we just keep them set. WHY was Monty saying "Oh everythings fine" like hes fucking kidding anyone? Two hurt superstar centers, a ghosr of a defense and a hurt goalie--everything is not fine.... and Ullmark should have disclosed the amount of pain he was in--it cost us the Cup and I vote to have him traded. cuz seriously, fuck you thats all about your ego, MF. Someone leaked Linus’s injury to Kevin Weekes likely his agent . Everything changed for the worse on after game four , hopefully in time we learn the truth cause that’s all I need . Seems like the decision making during our 7 games can really be called into question, from goaltending to defensive pairings and all 4 lines. I hate not knowing facts because rumours coming out now makes our choices inexcusable.
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Post by Ye Olde Winesock on May 3, 2023 9:28:49 GMT -5
Aloha bitches. I come in peace. Nothing can be said that hasn't already been shouted out. But I will say that what we saw is the reason why i stopped following so closely after the 2019 Cup debacle.
My take is this falls on Montgomery. Not using the very capable Swayman when Ullmark was injured and clearly not himself. The rotation worked well all year and SWayman could be a starter on another team. And the bizarre lineup shuffling.
Pardon the spelling, but Jim Montgomery is not a wartime consiglierie. (how do you spell this word?
I assume you all talked about the dumb dumb dumb decision to let Bergeron play in that last reg season game vs Montreal. A team with a history of being bad luck for bruins
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