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Post by madmarx on Aug 17, 2017 8:17:27 GMT -5
Marchand 's contract got done a day before camp opened , thinking the same for Pasta .. That's key, we can't afford to have Pasta miss any camp. Absolutely I'm hoping Pasta will want to play and tell his agent to get it done..
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Post by madmarx on Aug 17, 2017 8:47:52 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 17, 2017 9:10:10 GMT -5
It spells trouble but I'm not going to get upset when any GM stands up and plays hard ball. Stevie Y let Drouin go home to momma and never caved to his demands for a trade. He traded Drouin eventually on a great return and on his own timeline. Also he rode out a full year of Stamkos and let him test the UFA market and eventually signed him to a more reasonable 8.5 million. I think Sweeney needs to establish himself as a guy who doesn't bend over easily, he did great with Marchand, hopefully he can have a repeat performance with Pasta.
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Post by madmarx on Aug 17, 2017 9:33:27 GMT -5
I think that's there starting point and when you figure Marchand is at 6.125 it's not outrageous starting point to Me . I give him a ton of bonus money up front and a little more than 6 .
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 17, 2017 9:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 17, 2017 11:24:03 GMT -5
"With his rehabilitation nearly complete" and "back on the ice next week in preparation for training camp next month." Next week is the third week of August, I find the headline a little misleading. Sounds like he's hoping to be good to go for training camp. What did he have surgery on? Knee? I'm not worried, just nit-picking I guess.
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Post by madmarx on Aug 17, 2017 11:27:37 GMT -5
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Post by crafar01 on Aug 18, 2017 9:00:54 GMT -5
Good read. www.weei.com/articles/column/anderson-bruins-can-and-should-pay-david-pastrnak-what-he-wantsI found this especially intriguing: Keep in mind that the Oilers are now paying $21 million for their one-two punch of Draisaitl and McDavid. Dealing in terms of ‘Big Three’ forward groups, it’s up to $27 million if you include care to include their big free agent get last season, Milan Lucic. The Blackhawks pay $21 million for Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane, and $27 million with Brandon Saad now in the mix. The Penguins pay $18.2 million for the Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin combination, or $25 million if you include Phil Kessel. The Capitals pay over $16 million for Nicklas Backstrom and Alexander Ovechkin, and that number jumps to over $24 million with Evgeny Kuznetsov’s new deal in the picture.
The Bruins, meanwhile, pay just a combined $13 million to their three-zone dominant top-line pairing of Brad Marchand and Patrice Bergeron. That means that paying Pastrnak at least $7 million per season -- and into the best years of his career, too -- would be the Bruins spending just over $20 million per year for three great stars, two of which are either in or entering the prime of their careers, and the other not too far removed from it, with Bergeron at just 32 years old and in relatively good health.
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 18, 2017 9:24:51 GMT -5
"With his rehabilitation nearly complete" and "back on the ice next week in preparation for training camp next month." Next week is the third week of August, I find the headline a little misleading. Sounds like he's hoping to be good to go for training camp. What did he have surgery on? Knee? I'm not worried, just nit-picking I guess. Groin
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 18, 2017 10:13:41 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 18, 2017 11:10:29 GMT -5
Good read. www.weei.com/articles/column/anderson-bruins-can-and-should-pay-david-pastrnak-what-he-wantsI found this especially intriguing: Keep in mind that the Oilers are now paying $21 million for their one-two punch of Draisaitl and McDavid. Dealing in terms of ‘Big Three’ forward groups, it’s up to $27 million if you include care to include their big free agent get last season, Milan Lucic. The Blackhawks pay $21 million for Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane, and $27 million with Brandon Saad now in the mix. The Penguins pay $18.2 million for the Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin combination, or $25 million if you include Phil Kessel. The Capitals pay over $16 million for Nicklas Backstrom and Alexander Ovechkin, and that number jumps to over $24 million with Evgeny Kuznetsov’s new deal in the picture.
The Bruins, meanwhile, pay just a combined $13 million to their three-zone dominant top-line pairing of Brad Marchand and Patrice Bergeron. That means that paying Pastrnak at least $7 million per season -- and into the best years of his career, too -- would be the Bruins spending just over $20 million per year for three great stars, two of which are either in or entering the prime of their careers, and the other not too far removed from it, with Bergeron at just 32 years old and in relatively good health. I don't agree with "give him what he wants", make it tough on him and find some give and take. Don't trade him but put some serious pressure on the situation. He's not as good as Marchand and that deal was just done last year. I know Marchand took a hometown discount but Pasta shouldn't be the highest paid on the team at this point in his career.
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Post by madmarx on Aug 18, 2017 12:28:32 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^ Pretty much exactly how I feel ..
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Post by fforr on Aug 18, 2017 15:19:58 GMT -5
Would think they had a max number going into this situation all along. What the idiot savant out in Edmonton is doing should have no bearing. Pasta's not that far removed from having his ass glued to the bench in close 3rd period games with leads.
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Post by crafar01 on Aug 18, 2017 16:01:14 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Aug 20, 2017 10:24:56 GMT -5
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Post by DonnyBrook on Aug 20, 2017 15:23:53 GMT -5
wow..she is cute. and very tan. gotta get her some bruin gear tho..LOL
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Post by madmarx on Aug 21, 2017 17:49:41 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 21, 2017 21:02:49 GMT -5
Apparently points is the only criteria.
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Post by crafar01 on Aug 22, 2017 6:19:51 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Aug 22, 2017 6:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 22, 2017 9:08:25 GMT -5
So if you don't bring in talented veteran UFAs for large salary and if don't sign your young RFAs to big fat raises then you're not trying. Seems to me that the days of the high priced UFA will be coming to an end. The time of paying the players for what they have done is giving way to paying the big bucks for potential. Easy to see that the PA has no idea how to take care of all of its members. Quality vets who still have some game retire every year and young players come in that are not ready to take their place. Agents come together to control the market and GMs are continually dominated and kept off balanceI can live with Pasta getting 7 million ×8 years but more than that and I let him sit.
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Post by fforr on Aug 22, 2017 11:17:01 GMT -5
I guess it's just a sign of the times. Used to be only the best guys got to that 6.0 mill figure, now they're way north of that. Do think that there's way more to go in Pasta's development as a complete player and that he'll do the necessary work towards it. Things have just worked out extraordinarily well in his favor. We've already been watching one guy here float around for games at a time who's been making that kind of ched for years. Hopefully Pasta applies himself more.
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Post by madmarx on Aug 22, 2017 14:57:15 GMT -5
This is not a new thing for players to hold out but age and experience is different for sure .. I just don't care for this part of the sport and never have makes the players look greedy compared to the Working Man ..
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Post by crafar01 on Aug 23, 2017 7:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 23, 2017 7:44:26 GMT -5
Or the do go 10-1 and then end the season 1-10
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Post by madmarx on Aug 23, 2017 12:34:16 GMT -5
McGregor vs Mayweather any thoughts other than a money grab for both ..
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 23, 2017 17:17:23 GMT -5
McGregor vs Mayweather any thoughts other than a money grab for both .. I just want it over. Those two big mouth fucks are driving me nuts. All I hear about and is on all the tv stations. I hope they both lose.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Aug 24, 2017 5:35:44 GMT -5
so anyone see the new hockeynews year book? i think this might be my last year after 30 of subscription. bruins predicted for fifth in atlantic. and no patrice bergeron in the top 50... i think people on this sight could manage better predictions.
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 24, 2017 7:21:39 GMT -5
McGregor vs Mayweather any thoughts other than a money grab for both .. My conspiracy theory is that the fix has been in on this match as soon as they inked the deal. Both are dickheads and I think Mayweather should win but I keep thinking why is the mma risking McGregor getting schooled by a boxer and making their sport look bad when they are light years a head of boxing in ratings and popularity and while boxing has almost become irrelevant? My answer is they wouldn't. I'm usually wrong on these things but that's the way my head works I guess.
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 24, 2017 7:23:32 GMT -5
so anyone see the new hockeynews year book? i think this might be my last year after 30 of subscription. bruins predicted for fifth in atlantic. and no patrice bergeron in the top 50... i think people on this sight could manage better predictions. The hockey news has as much credibility as the Bleacher report these days.
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