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Post by SeaBass on Dec 4, 2018 12:15:26 GMT -5
Arizona will move to the Central Conference and Seattle will be in the Pacific
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 4, 2018 12:21:53 GMT -5
They will start in the year 21-22. The Bruins need to make their new deals smart so they won't lose anybody. The Bruins will have to protect Bergeron and Marchand according to their no trade contracts.
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Post by nfld77 on Dec 4, 2018 12:45:29 GMT -5
They will start in the year 21-22. The Bruins need to make their new deals smart so they won't lose anybody. Oh I know 3 or 4 they can have!!!
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Post by Losing my mind on Dec 4, 2018 12:59:32 GMT -5
I remember hearing earlier Vegas would be exempt from the expansion draft, if so I call BULLSHIT.
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 4, 2018 13:26:27 GMT -5
I remember hearing earlier Vegas would be exempt from the expansion draft, if so I call BULLSHIT. That is what Buttman said today.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Dec 4, 2018 15:21:52 GMT -5
They will start in the year 21-22. The Bruins need to make their new deals smart so they won't lose anybody. which young bruin talent will the bruins lose in this draft?
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 6, 2018 7:33:36 GMT -5
A Way Too Early forecast of Who the Bruins will Protect In The Draft
In 2017, the Bruins left Matt Beleskey and Adam McQuaid unprotected in the expansion draft, hoping the Golden Knights would prefer one of the veterans for their inaugural roster.
But Vegas’s selection of Colin Miller, 24 at the time, was an example of how the NHL’s 31st franchise had identified young players eager for opportunity. Miller proved his new employer right by notching 10 goals and 31 assists in 82 games, helping the Golden Knights advance to the Stanley Cup Final. On July 7, Vegas rewarded the right-shot defenseman with a four-year, $15.5 million extension.
In three years, the Bruins will go through a similar exercise when Seattle will be free to claim one of their players as their own. By 2021, David Krejci, David Backes, and Tuukka Rask will be off the books. Time is likely to have caught up with Zdeno Chara, who will be 44.
But the Bruins, like 30 other teams (Vegas will be exempt from the process), will lose a good player. Following is a list of the likely players they’ll protect using the model they chose in 2017: seven forwards, three defensemen, and one goalie.
Forwards David Pastrnak. Duh. Pastrnak will only be 25 when Seattle constructs its initial roster. The right wing will still be in the prime of his career. Jake DeBrusk. Also duh. He’ll be 24 by the draft, and DeBrusk should then be on track to be a close approximation of Taylor Hall: speedy, physical, courageous, and skilled. Brad Marchand. The Bruins will be required to protect Marchand because of his no-movement clause. Patrice Bergeron. The center will be 35 and most likely in decline. Even so, it’s difficult to project a dropoff so steep that the Bruins would let Bergeron walk. Ryan Donato. It’s been a sluggish season for the rookie. But Donato should be able to figure out the league by the time he’s 25. If not, it would be a waste of his shot. Anders Bjork. Like Donato, Bjork has had trouble gaining NHL traction this season. But with time, Bjork’s explosiveness will make him a top-six threat. Trent Frederic. The heavy center will be coming off his entry-level contract in 2021. Frederic will be 23 and should be a good second- or third-line NHL center. Defensemen Charlie McAvoy. Slam dunk. McAvoy will be 23 and still improving. Urho Vaakanainen. He’s only played in two NHL games because of a concussion. But it’s been enough of a glimpse for the Bruins to see a long-term top-four defenseman because of his skating and smarts. Matt Grzelcyk. With Torey Krug’s future unknown (his contract expires in 2020), Grzelcyk may be the power-play quarterback by then. But Grzelcyk is also valuable because of his defending and puck-moving touch. Goalie Dan Vladar. The 6-foot-5 Vladar will be 23 and perhaps ready for full-time NHL duty. Exemptions Jack Studnicka, Jakub Lauko, Axel Andersson, Kyle Keyser, and Jeremy Swayman are among the prospects who should still be first- or second-year pros and thus be exempt from protection. Same for their first-round picks in 2019 and 2020.
Who does that leave for Seattle? All teams must expose one goalie, either under contract in 2021-22 or a restricted free agent following the 2020-21 season. The Bruins could sign an inexpensive veteran to fulfill this requirement.
Up front, the Bruins will have to expose two forwards under contract in 2021-22 who have played in 40 or more games the prior season. The Bruins do not currently have any forwards under contract in 2021-22 other than Pastrnak, Marchand, and Bergeron.
Barring any trades, it’s likely that Danton Heinen, Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson, and Colby Cave will be extended before then. If so, that would fulfill the Bruins’ exposure requirements at forward.
The Bruins currently project to have more depth on defense that Seattle would find interesting. John Moore is signed through 2023. Teams only have to expose one defenseman under contract with 40 or more games played the prior season, so Moore would fulfill that criteria.
But if the Bruins protect McAvoy, Vaakanainen, and Grzelcyk, Seattle would have options among Brandon Carlo, Jeremy Lauzon, and Jakub Zboril.
Of the three, Carlo would be the biggest risk to be claimed. The right-shot Carlo will be 24 and fully formed as a stay-at-home defender.
Conclusion The toughest call for the Bruins to protect is the third defenseman after McAvoy and Vaakanainen. It will be between the 27-year-old Grzlecyk and 24-year-old Carlo.
The Bruins like Carlo. He skates well for a 6-foot-5 defenseman. He’s good with his stick. He’s getting meaner around the net.
But the game continues to trend toward speed, agility, and rapid processing power. Even if Grzelcyk is older and has fewer games left to play than Carlo, the Charlestown native is built to last the way the NHL is progressing. Carlo, who played junior hockey for the Tri-City Americans in Kennewick, Wash., could be headed back to familiar territory.
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 6, 2018 7:34:08 GMT -5
I think I would go with Carlo over Gryz. I like his size and grittiness.
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 6, 2018 7:42:25 GMT -5
New Cam Neely weighs in on state of Bruins – Boston Herald
As of right now, there doesn’t appear to be any help coming from the outside, at least not yet. And for a day anyway, there was no call made down to Providence for some different young blood.
“We’re constantly talking about what we can maybe do and what the options are,” said Neely. “Providence, we’ve had guys come up and down and we’ve had guys playing more than we anticipated them playing this year from Providence. But that doesn’t mean we’re done with that. We have to look at all our options to see how we can get ourselves playing a little cleaner. But let’s be honest. We’ve got a tough stretch coming up.”
GM Don Sweeney has made no secret that he’s looking for some help. Even when healthy, they could use – from this observer’s perspective – a top six wing and a third line center, in that order. He’d surely like to make some kind of an impact deal and not just one to get them over this current hump, formidable though it may be.
Injuries haven’t helped the B’s standing in the trade market, either.
“It makes it a little more challenging because teams know that you’re a little more vulnerable,” said Neely. “On the one hand, you really want to make a hockey trade and not necessarily just a band aid, but if there’s an opportunity where it could be a “band aid,” you don’t want to give up an asset that may not be ready yet but they are going to be ready and will help you for a lot longer than a band aid. There’s that delicate balance to make sure you’re doing the right thing for the club, both short-term and long-term.”
So for today at least, the message is to get back to grinding out the points like they’d done for a several weeks. And keep it simple.
“Simplify your game and see where it takes you,” said Neely. “Because playing that way isn’t working.”
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Post by kjc2 on Dec 6, 2018 9:30:54 GMT -5
I think I would go with Carlo over Gryz. I like his size and grittiness. I like Grz but keeping Carlo is a no brainer for me as well. Krug should be gone but Lauzon is starting to look good now as well.
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Post by kjc2 on Dec 6, 2018 10:10:23 GMT -5
New Cam Neely weighs in on state of Bruins – Boston Herald As of right now, there doesn’t appear to be any help coming from the outside, at least not yet. And for a day anyway, there was no call made down to Providence for some different young blood. “We’re constantly talking about what we can maybe do and what the options are,” said Neely. “Providence, we’ve had guys come up and down and we’ve had guys playing more than we anticipated them playing this year from Providence. But that doesn’t mean we’re done with that. We have to look at all our options to see how we can get ourselves playing a little cleaner. But let’s be honest. We’ve got a tough stretch coming up.” GM Don Sweeney has made no secret that he’s looking for some help. Even when healthy, they could use – from this observer’s perspective – a top six wing and a third line center, in that order. He’d surely like to make some kind of an impact deal and not just one to get them over this current hump, formidable though it may be. Injuries haven’t helped the B’s standing in the trade market, either. “It makes it a little more challenging because teams know that you’re a little more vulnerable,” said Neely. “On the one hand, you really want to make a hockey trade and not necessarily just a band aid, but if there’s an opportunity where it could be a “band aid,” you don’t want to give up an asset that may not be ready yet but they are going to be ready and will help you for a lot longer than a band aid. There’s that delicate balance to make sure you’re doing the right thing for the club, both short-term and long-term.” So for today at least, the message is to get back to grinding out the points like they’d done for a several weeks. And keep it simple. “Simplify your game and see where it takes you,” said Neely. “Because playing that way isn’t working.” Simplify the game and keep grinding it out is fine while we still occupy a playoff spot but things are going to get uglier as we finish out December. I got an idea, trade with a team that is just as vulnerable as we are, there are at least 16 teams out there that are very uncomfortable right now.
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Post by madmarx on Dec 6, 2018 16:39:05 GMT -5
It’s easy to be an armchair GM but Sweeney missed the boat on Skinner never a big fan with his history of head injuries but he playing lights out
Chris Pu and a 2nd 3rd and a sixth pick ..
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Post by orym on Dec 6, 2018 16:58:55 GMT -5
It’s easy to be an armchair GM but Sweeney missed the boat on Skinner never a big fan with his history of head injuries but he playing lights out Chris Pu and a 2nd 3rd and a sixth pick .. I would have passed on Skinner too at the time. I think it was a bit of a risk bringing him in and I agree he has played great but at the time he was one of those players I would have definitely had some serious second thoughts about with all those injuries. Quite a few draft picks going the other way too so you never know what those might turn into. Looks like a great trade for Buffalo so far though!
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Post by madmarx on Dec 6, 2018 17:03:45 GMT -5
It’s easy to be an armchair GM but Sweeney missed the boat on Skinner never a big fan with his history of head injuries but he playing lights out Chris Pu and a 2nd 3rd and a sixth pick .. I would have passed on Skinner too at the time. I think it was a bit of a risk bringing him in and I agree he has played great but at the time he was one of those players I would have definitely had some serious second thoughts about with all those injuries. Quite a few draft picks going the other way too so you never know what those might turn into. Looks like a great trade for Buffalo so far though! He’s playing for a contact as well the cash register is ringing right now ..
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Post by madmarx on Dec 6, 2018 17:23:58 GMT -5
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Post by crafar01 on Dec 7, 2018 7:42:11 GMT -5
That popped up yesterday on my news feed...is it wrong that I chuckled a bit when I saw it? I realize it was not a particularly classy move on Reaves' part, but given that it was Wilson, it is hard for me to muster any kind of sympathy.
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 7, 2018 9:12:11 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 7, 2018 9:13:31 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 7, 2018 11:55:17 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Dec 8, 2018 10:43:27 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Dec 8, 2018 10:59:43 GMT -5
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Post by fforr on Dec 8, 2018 12:03:21 GMT -5
Think Carlo’s a big part of the future here and is cost controlled for a while.
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 10, 2018 9:09:38 GMT -5
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Post by fforr on Dec 10, 2018 10:37:22 GMT -5
Love these sky is falling, FOH (friend of Haggs) types that can’t wait for some adversity to start spewing the hate for recognition. Soon as they go on a three game skid all the hindsight about the 2015 draft.comes up again. Do I wish the kids could have lit it up right from the get go, of course. It’s a tough league, you play against men now. With all the major injuries to key core franchise players they’re 5th in the Conference, the top defensive team in the league and one of the top PP. Had they been injury free and in the same position nothing would even been said.
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Post by crafar01 on Dec 10, 2018 10:41:34 GMT -5
Love these sky is falling, FOH (friend of Haggs) types that can’t wait for some adversity to start spewing the hate for recognition. Soon as they go on a three game skid all the hindsight about the 2015 draft.comes up again. Do I wish the kids could have lit it up right from the get go, of course. It’s a tough league, you play against men now. With all the major injuries to key core franchise players they’re 5th in the Conference, the top defensive team in the league and one of the top PP. Had they been injury free and in the same position nothing would even been said. And it is rather odd coming from this guy. He's usually the opposite side of the coin - rah, rah, the Bs are great, etc. He's always pumping Tuukka's tires when he goes through a bad stretch and everyone else is piling on him.
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Post by KSJ08 on Dec 10, 2018 12:18:08 GMT -5
Did this ass wipe even WATCH last season hiway robbery by the Obvious biased refs in the Tampa series?? How about last night Marchand gets a BLANTANT slash in on goal ref standing right there does NOTHING! I remember Krug TAPPING a Lighting player on the thigh from behind & got 2:00 minute PIM either hook or slash it was fucking ridiculous!!
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Post by kjc2 on Dec 10, 2018 15:04:38 GMT -5
He maybe a little over the top but I can't disagree with any of this. We have a great first line when Bergeron is here, our second line shows flashes with Krejci and Debrusk but are not at all consistent and we still don't have a RWer for that line. Our bottom six is junk unless Heinen, Donato and Bjork take another step. Our goalies are great and our D has been good to great with and without the injuries. Not sure how you can say he's wrong on asking "what we're doing".
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Post by nfld77 on Dec 10, 2018 16:46:59 GMT -5
Love these sky is falling, FOH (friend of Haggs) types that can’t wait for some adversity to start spewing the hate for recognition. Soon as they go on a three game skid all the hindsight about the 2015 draft.comes up again. Do I wish the kids could have lit it up right from the get go, of course. It’s a tough league, you play against men now. With all the major injuries to key core franchise players they’re 5th in the Conference, the top defensive team in the league and one of the top PP. Had they been injury free and in the same position nothing would even been said. And it is rather odd coming from this guy. He's usually the opposite side of the coin - rah, rah, the Bs are great, etc. He's always pumping Tuukka's tires when he goes through a bad stretch and everyone else is piling on him. I know you guys know this dude ALOT better than I do BUT I have to agree with alot he said regardless of our league positioning BECAUSE of last 2 wins. But when he wrote this article[Dec 7} Bruins were on a fall, losers of 3 straight and game after game after game with no scoring, max 2 goals a game. He mentioned the signing of Nordstrom and Wagner to replace Schaller and Nash, agree 100% with him. He mentioned the problem last spring about top end talent, exact problem we have right now, scoring on 1st line, that's it beside DeBrusk.. Our 2 goaltenders are over 30, Backes, Bergeron,DK, Chara all getting up there.. Our need for a 3rd line center or a 2nd line Winger went unaddressed. Even myself said before season began I expect Heinen to have half the points he had last season and I'm just a fan like us all yet nothing was done about it and right now Sweeney is desperate to make a trade BECAUSE of the lack of decent players attained this summer..Just praising a player like Nordstrom certainly is proof enough there. I realize injuries have really affected this team BUT the players who had an awesome chance to showcase their talent Failed and failed badly!!!
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Post by nfld77 on Dec 10, 2018 16:53:08 GMT -5
He maybe a little over the top but I can't disagree with any of this. We have a great first line when Bergeron is here, our second line shows flashes with Krejci and Debrusk but are not at all consistent and we still don't have a RWer for that line. Our bottom six is junk unless Heinen, Donato and Bjork take another step. Our goalies are great and our D has been good to great with and without the injuries. Not sure how you can say he's wrong on asking "what we're doing". Lmao, I'm just reading your post now. Surprise, surprise, we sorta agree with this bum..Like you said, our bottom 6 is absolute ECHL JUNK!!!
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Post by SeaBass on Dec 12, 2018 8:39:40 GMT -5
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