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Post by kjc2 on Aug 13, 2019 9:23:59 GMT -5
I think Carlo can be done easily but his group most likely wants to see what Charlie and some of theses other RFA Dmen get before committing to a deal. I'd say 98% of the RFA's get done at or by the start of training camp.
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 13, 2019 9:34:09 GMT -5
Stole this off Twitter Who Doesn’t make the HOF Bergeron Chara Marchand Rask Marchand and Rask would be my guess.
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 13, 2019 9:39:39 GMT -5
Mac injuries yes Cam already made a public statement about that , that I personnally didn't like one bit. Carlo don't think so he had 2 I believe injury free season until LAST game of 2 Regular season & the 1st was cheap/illegal shot from gehindinto dasher by Ovie, 2nd was freak rut in the corner. It’s not uncommon to use injuries against Players in arbitration not a fan .. Yea I agree not uncommon BUT I didn't like he made it public about the injuries and it hasn't gone to Arbritration. So it was a ploy to use against the agent in future talks. Keep it behind closed doors UNTIL the Agent makes it public NOT Team management to air that kind of tactics When/IF needed. That's old school,bullying GM tactics IMHO!
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 13, 2019 10:32:19 GMT -5
Mac injuries yes Cam already made a public statement about that , that I personnally didn't like one bit. Carlo don't think so he had 2 I believe injury free season until LAST game of 2 Regular season & the 1st was cheap/illegal shot from gehindinto dasher by Ovie, 2nd was freak rut in the corner. It’s not uncommon to use injuries against Players in arbitration not a fan .. I think injuries have to be a big part of management concerns on whether they want someone long term but using it against a guy in a contract is stupid. You either want him or you don't and the market is the market. With that said I hope Donny plays hard ball with all those fucking agents by using normal tactics instead of using the Harry Sinden technique. Injury wise I'm not concerned at all about Carlo, like KSJ said, the two injuries Carlo suffered were a dirt bag move and the other a rut in the ice. Mcavoy on the other hand plays physical and puts himself in harms way and is a little reckless at times. I think he could potentially be in sickbay a lot unless he learns to pick his spots better.
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Post by madmarx on Aug 13, 2019 11:43:43 GMT -5
While most all Players have agents at the end of the day the Player makes the decision.. Pasta’s deal dragged a while too, but there was no way he was missing hockey over it ..
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Post by madmarx on Aug 13, 2019 11:48:21 GMT -5
Stole this off Twitter Who Doesn’t make the HOF Bergeron Chara Marchand Rask Marchand and Rask would be my guess. I could see issues with Marchand’s off ice issues, Rask would be a shoe in with a Cup , kinda harsh but I think that’s reality..
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 13, 2019 13:53:08 GMT -5
While most all Players have agents at the end of the day the Player makes the decision.. Pasta’s deal dragged a while too, but there was no way he was missing hockey over it .. The Player is always in charge no doubt but these agents are 40+ years old in most cases and advising kids in their early 20s. I just think some of the players take some bad advice.
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Post by madmarx on Aug 13, 2019 18:11:33 GMT -5
While most all Players have agents at the end of the day the Player makes the decision.. Pasta’s deal dragged a while too, but there was no way he was missing hockey over it .. The Player is always in charge no doubt but these agents are 40+ years old in most cases and advising kids in their early 20s. I just think some of the players take some bad advice. Agree with what you posted but depending on how far there apart the comfort factor (Bruins) and they have very little leverage as an RFA aside from the market value sign on the paper already 😉
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 14, 2019 0:34:27 GMT -5
The Player is always in charge no doubt but these agents are 40+ years old in most cases and advising kids in their early 20s. I just think some of the players take some bad advice. Agree with what you posted but depending on how far there apart the comfort factor (Bruins) and they have very little leverage as an RFA aside from the market value sign on the paper already 😉 Yes, totally agree. On your point of comfort factor. Not the same situation but I was thinking about Beleskey the other day. Had a good year with the Ducks, contract year go figure, got greedy and signed with the Bruins. Our mistake, he sucked with the Bruins and when he left the Bruins he played around 5 more NHL games. He’s still only 31 and most likely done as an NHLer. Had he stayed with the Ducks for a little less money, he could have continued to play a bottom six role and had some spot duty in the top six and enjoyed a longer more meaningful career. Moral of the story, if you’re having success with a team why run the risk of changing teams and screwing it all up.
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 14, 2019 12:53:19 GMT -5
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Post by DonnyBrook on Aug 15, 2019 12:52:33 GMT -5
alex kraemer will not be back next season.
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Post by crafar01 on Aug 15, 2019 13:42:24 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Aug 15, 2019 16:57:24 GMT -5
Familiar with Her in Toronto media and her Leaf coverage 🤔
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 16, 2019 4:43:48 GMT -5
Familiar with Her in Toronto media and her Leaf coverage 🤔 I remember seeing her on CBC HNIC as well.
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 16, 2019 8:19:26 GMT -5
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 16, 2019 9:25:04 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 16, 2019 10:01:52 GMT -5
I liked Charlie on that third line, I actually hope Bjork can win that job (2nd line RWer) and have a great year. Could be wishful thinking but who knows.
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 16, 2019 10:04:32 GMT -5
I liked Charlie on that third line, I actually hope Bjork can win that job (2nd line RWer) and have a great year. Could be wishful thinking but who knows. I too like him as 3rd line center, really give 4 solid lines . I believe Bjork CAN win the position question is can he stay healthy?
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 19, 2019 10:36:01 GMT -5
The Hockey News’s forecast for Boston’s 2023-24 roster:
FORWARDS Marchand-Jack Studnicka-David Pastrnak Jake DeBrusk-Patrice Bergeron-Charlie Coyle Danton Heinen-Trent Frederic-Zach Senyshyn Jakub Lauko-John Beecher-Anders Bjork
DEFENSEMEN Torey Krug-McAvoy Urho Vaakanainen-Carlo Matt Grzelcyk-Connor Clifton
GOALIES Tuukka Rask Jeremy Swayman
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 20, 2019 8:14:01 GMT -5
The Hockey News’s forecast for Boston’s 2023-24 roster: FORWARDS Marchand-Jack Studnicka-David Pastrnak Jake DeBrusk-Patrice Bergeron-Charlie Coyle Danton Heinen-Trent Frederic-Zach Senyshyn Jakub Lauko-John Beecher-Anders Bjork DEFENSEMEN Torey Krug-McAvoy Urho Vaakanainen-Carlo Matt Grzelcyk-Connor Clifton GOALIES Tuukka Rask Jeremy Swayman I'm trying to envision this roster being a contender but not knowing what Studnicka will be and some of the other kids it's difficult to see any more than a bubble team right now. I do like the D, even though I think Torey is playing his last year here. How do we afford to keep him?
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 20, 2019 8:56:42 GMT -5
The Hockey News’s forecast for Boston’s 2023-24 roster: FORWARDS Marchand-Jack Studnicka-David Pastrnak Jake DeBrusk-Patrice Bergeron-Charlie Coyle Danton Heinen-Trent Frederic-Zach Senyshyn Jakub Lauko-John Beecher-Anders Bjork DEFENSEMEN Torey Krug-McAvoy Urho Vaakanainen-Carlo Matt Grzelcyk-Connor Clifton GOALIES Tuukka Rask Jeremy Swayman Way too far out, but from what I've read/seen online by that time I do not expect Beecher to be a 4th line center either.
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Post by nfld77 on Aug 20, 2019 14:43:18 GMT -5
The Hockey News’s forecast for Boston’s 2023-24 roster: FORWARDS Marchand-Jack Studnicka-David Pastrnak Jake DeBrusk-Patrice Bergeron-Charlie Coyle Danton Heinen-Trent Frederic-Zach Senyshyn Jakub Lauko-John Beecher-Anders Bjork DEFENSEMEN Torey Krug-McAvoy Urho Vaakanainen-Carlo Matt Grzelcyk-Connor Clifton GOALIES Tuukka Rask Jeremy Swayman Way too far out, but from what I've read/seen online by that time I do not expect Beecher to be a 4th line center either. I agree and I expect Lauko to be a top 6 even before 23-24 and also like you said, Beecher..
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 21, 2019 9:45:07 GMT -5
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Post by KSJ08 on Aug 21, 2019 9:48:15 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 21, 2019 10:09:45 GMT -5
Butch is doing a great job, we couldn't be more fortunate.
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 23, 2019 6:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 23, 2019 9:56:58 GMT -5
If we have our RFA contract issues going into the season with Carlo and McAvoy there's a good chance that Vaak gets a nice long look but if we get it all sorted out it'll be hard for Vaak to get a sniff. Chara, Krug and Griz will eat up all the left D minutes and we have McAvoy, Carlo, Miller and Cliffy filling out the other side. Not sure of the status on Moore but he'll be back as well eventually. Vaakanainen needs ice time to show what he's got and management will need to see something if they're contemplating Krug's future as a Bruin.
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Post by SeaBass on Aug 27, 2019 8:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Aug 28, 2019 7:25:15 GMT -5
I'd like to see Frederic make it as the third or fourth line RWer. Maybe throw Ritche in the bottom six RWer position as well and you have Coyle, Kuraly, Frederic and Rithie that are four big boys in our bottom six. Edit: I forgot that Frederic is a left shot and can also play center. Also, who took all the faceoffs on the fourth line last year? Acciari? Maybe a fourth line of Kuraly-Fredeic-Ritchie If Freddy can't win enough draws though, he won't play center for Butch.
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Post by offwego on Aug 28, 2019 9:47:49 GMT -5
Is it October yet? ??
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