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Post by SeaBass on Feb 18, 2020 11:07:35 GMT -5
im curious to see what JR said to get suspended from NBC. i didnt even know that happened. Something about wanting to sleep with Kathryn Tappan and Patrick Sharp
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Post by crafar01 on Feb 18, 2020 11:18:41 GMT -5
im curious to see what JR said to get suspended from NBC. i didnt even know that happened. He made some untoward comments, of a sexual nature, regarding Katheryn Tappen. Apparently, he, his wife and her are all good friends and they went somewhere together and he said some things about her, something about a threesome. He also said some things about Patrick Sharp. All this was on his podcast and NBC caught wind of it and we all know how that went. And I think he's fired not just suspended, but I may be mistaken.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Feb 18, 2020 11:33:34 GMT -5
im curious to see what JR said to get suspended from NBC. i didnt even know that happened. He made some untoward comments, of a sexual nature, regarding Katheryn Tappen. Apparently, he, his wife and her are all good friends and they went somewhere together and he said some things about her, something about a threesome. He also said some things about Patrick Sharp. All this was on his podcast and NBC caught wind of it and we all know how that went. And I think he's fired not just suspended, but I may be mistaken. yep..i looked it up.
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Post by nfld77 on Feb 18, 2020 14:37:30 GMT -5
He made some untoward comments, of a sexual nature, regarding Katheryn Tappen. Apparently, he, his wife and her are all good friends and they went somewhere together and he said some things about her, something about a threesome. He also said some things about Patrick Sharp. All this was on his podcast and NBC caught wind of it and we all know how that went. And I think he's fired not just suspended, but I may be mistaken. yep..i looked it up. $%%%ing idiot..Christ, even on our little board, most of us feel the same when it comes to a beauty like Tappen or any other lady, but at least us dogs are respectful of it..Seriously how stupid can Roenick be?
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Post by crafar01 on Feb 18, 2020 14:40:42 GMT -5
$%%%ing idiot..Christ, even on our little board, most of us feel the same when it comes to a beauty like Tappen or any other lady, but at least us dogs are respectful of it..Seriously how stupid can Roenick be? I think he thought that he was good enough friends with both Tappen and Sharp that he could talk candidly about them like that and they'd be fine with it. Tappen sounded a bit shocked, I don't remember what Sharp said, I think he took it as more of a joke. And I will also say that I think he was being at least a little bit tongue in cheek...but NBC didn't care.
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Post by madmarx on Feb 18, 2020 14:49:38 GMT -5
$%%%ing idiot..Christ, even on our little board, most of us feel the same when it comes to a beauty like Tappen or any other lady, but at least us dogs are respectful of it..Seriously how stupid can Roenick be? Not sure if you have ever listened to Spittin Chicklets podcast but it’s the Boys talking in the locker room, and it’s pretty easy to get egged on by them ..I have listened to the podcast from time to time depending on the Guest it has some really funny hockey stories.. I listened to JR’s podcast and it had hilarious stories beside the Tappen deal , can’t go there in today’s world..
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 18, 2020 17:36:37 GMT -5
$%%%ing idiot..Christ, even on our little board, most of us feel the same when it comes to a beauty like Tappen or any other lady, but at least us dogs are respectful of it..Seriously how stupid can Roenick be? Not sure if you have ever listened to Spittin Chicklets podcast but it’s the Boys talking in the locker room, and it’s pretty easy to get egged on by them ..I have listened to the podcast from time to time depending on the Guest it has some really funny hockey stories.. I listened to JR’s podcast and it had hilarious stories beside the Tappen deal , can’t go there in today’s world.. I read that Tappen said it was inappropriate but she was friends with him so she wasn’t offended, it was NBC that had to deal with the blow back.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 18, 2020 18:28:11 GMT -5
Spitting Chicklets is funnier than helll most weeks.
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 18, 2020 22:52:06 GMT -5
Spitting Chicklets is funnier than helll most weeks. I’ve only watched it a few times but it was hilarious each time.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 19, 2020 12:18:17 GMT -5
This is insane. When I had tickets we were in the loge in row 24 and we paid 60 bucks a seat.
Bruins say there will be “a blended price increase of 5% from last season” for their season ticket holders. Prices for STHs will range from $57-$122 per game in the balcony, and $111-$175 per game in the loge.
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Post by nfld77 on Feb 19, 2020 16:27:39 GMT -5
This is insane. When I had tickets we were in the loge in row 24 and we paid 60 bucks a seat. Bruins say there will be “a blended price increase of 5% from last season” for their season ticket holders. Prices for STHs will range from $57-$122 per game in the balcony, and $111-$175 per game in the loge. WOW, that's over 100% more in the Loge, I guess depending what row but thats crazy!!
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Post by madmarx on Feb 19, 2020 18:53:16 GMT -5
Stole this one but let’s give it a go here
𝗙𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗶𝗻 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝘀𝘄𝗲𝗿𝘀: Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Favorite player today: Rival you most respect: Favorite goalie as a kid: Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years:
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Post by madmarx on Feb 19, 2020 18:54:05 GMT -5
Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Bobby Orr , Sanderson Favorite player today:Bergeron Rival you most respect:Montreal Jean Beliveau Favorite goalie as a kid:Cheever’s Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years:Pasternak
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Post by KSJ08 on Feb 19, 2020 19:24:39 GMT -5
Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Robert Gordon Orr Favorite player today: Marchand Rival you most respect: Marc-Andre Fleury Favorite goalie as a kid: Gilles Gilbert, Cheesy 2nd Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years: Pasternak
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 19, 2020 20:34:51 GMT -5
Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Bobby Orr , Terry O’Reilly Favorite player today:Bergeron Rival you most respect:Montreal Larry Robinson Favorite goalie as a kid:Cheever’s Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years: McAvoy, Pasternak
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Post by nfld77 on Feb 20, 2020 0:37:01 GMT -5
𝗙𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗶𝗻 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝘀𝘄𝗲𝗿𝘀: Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Chief Johnny Bucyk Favorite player today: Tuukku Rask Rival you most respect: Montreal Favorite goalie as a kid: Gerry Cheevers Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years: Pastrnak & McAvoy
Great idea Madmarx.
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Post by orym on Feb 20, 2020 10:29:46 GMT -5
Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Cam Neely Favorite player today: Bergeron Rival you most respect: Shea Weber Favorite goalie as a kid: Dominik Hasek Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years: Pasta
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Post by madmarx on Feb 20, 2020 10:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by DonnyBrook on Feb 20, 2020 11:01:44 GMT -5
Player that made you fall in love with hockey: barry pederson/bourque/neely/nifty Favorite player today: bergeron Rival you most respect: gretzky Favorite goalie as a kid: pete peeters pele lindberg Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years: pasta. chuckie.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 20, 2020 11:17:38 GMT -5
Stole this one but let’s give it a go here 𝗙𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗶𝗻 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝘀𝘄𝗲𝗿𝘀: Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Orr/1980 Team USAFavorite player today: BergeronRival you most respect: CrosbyFavorite goalie as a kid: CraigPlayer you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years: Pasta/Chuckie/Studnicka
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Post by fforr on Feb 20, 2020 11:46:26 GMT -5
Player that made you fall in love with hockey: Orr Favorite player today: Bergeron Rival you most respect: Guy Lafleur Favorite goalie as a kid:Cheevers Player you're most excited to watch for the next 10 years: Studnika
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 20, 2020 12:54:36 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Feb 20, 2020 14:02:20 GMT -5
Most Man Games Lost to Injury This Season:
#CBJ - 341 #GoJetsGo - 328 #NHLBruins - 303 #GoSensGo - 291 #Sabres50 - 290
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 21, 2020 8:02:44 GMT -5
With his OT winner, David Pastrnak has scored 43 of the #NHLBruins 201 goals this season (21.4%).
That's the highest player percentage of a team's goals this season.
Matthews at 20.2% of goals for the leafs, with 212 on the season.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 21, 2020 9:06:26 GMT -5
Patrice Bergeron before / after turning 30 years old
Before: 206 goals in 740 games
After: 142 goals in 340 games
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 21, 2020 9:30:10 GMT -5
Marchand is the homepage of Google today.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 21, 2020 11:00:06 GMT -5
TORONTO — The most famous line in United States sports broadcasting history isn’t hard to identify. It was delivered on Feb. 22, 1980, a six-word manifest constructed by a now famous broadcaster, a call known from Maine to California and everywhere in between for those of a certain age.
Do you believe in miracles? YES!
Al Michaels delivered the line at the end of the most famous upset in American sports history – the 4-3 win by the 1980 United States Olympic hockey over the Soviet Union in the medal round of the tournament. It is known as the “Miracle on Ice” game. Two days later the Americans won the gold.
The game was the rocket fuel that sent Michaels to a Hall of Fame broadcasting career. He remains on the air today, at 75, as the voice of NBC’s “Sunday Night Football.”
Less highlighted by history — at least in the United States — is the analyst for the game, even though the analyst is a member of the Hockey Hall of Fame and one of the great goaltenders of his era.
Ken Dryden sat next to Michaels for the entire Olympic hockey tournament and his reflections 40 years later on calling the top sports moment of the 20th century are fascinating. We spoke last week for an hour. What gets lost to history outside of the most devoted Miracle on Ice fans is Dryden offered a precursor (“It’s over”) to Michaels’s famous line, as well as added his own exclamation point after Michaels’ delivered his miracle phrase. If you listen to the broadcast, you can hear Dryden say, “UNBELIEVABLE!” after Michaels says “YES!” followed by the roar of the crowd.
I think what I said is what a fan would say,” said Dryden. “It’s what would come out of a fan’s mouth. As Al was calling the last 15 seconds or so and the puck being in the U.S. end, what the U.S. was desperate to do was get the puck out of their zone. What the Soviets were trying to do desperately was keep it in the zone. It was all going to be about whether it stayed in the zone or got out of the zone. So with about five seconds to go and puck near the blue line and along the boards, there was this desperate fight for it, and finally, a U.S. player just chipped it out over the blue line. That was the moment at which I knew, and I just said, “It’s over.”
“Al kept with the play by play to the end and then said what he said. I have no idea whether Al rehearsed it or anything. I’ve never asked him. I assume it has been asked and answered but I don’t know what his answer is. But I think what he got exactly right was the phrase itself. The phrase itself, ‘Do you believe in miracles?’ is really a pretty common and routine phrase. It’s not as if nobody has put those words before together. But what he did in the context of that moment was he gave fresh life to those words and that phrase. That’s the test of getting it right. It’s the phrase at that moment. I also think the other thing was just Al’s voice. It has what the great announcers have. Not only a crackle and an edge to it, but there’s a kind of shivery quality to it. So as he was shrieking it out, it was the shiver of the ‘Do you believe in miracles?’ and then the punctuation of it with the pause and then…Yes! The ‘Do you believe in miracles?’ is what gets remembered and what comes to stand for that particular moment. But it was the punctuation of it with the ‘Yes!’ that just was the real, ultimate punchline to it. He got that just right.”
How did Hamilton, Ontario-born Dryden end up calling Olympic hockey for the American Broadcasting Company at the 1980 Olympics in Lake Placid? That would be the brainwork of Art Kaminsky, a pioneering sports agent who at one time represented about one-third of the players in the National Hockey League. (He also brilliantly signed more than two-thirds of the 1980 U.S. Hockey team, as well as Herb Brooks, and speedskaters Eric and Beth Heiden prior to the Olympics.) Kaminsky was one year ahead of Dryden at Cornell University and eventually became his agent. After Dryden retired from the NHL in 1979 following a brilliant eight-year career and six Stanley Cup titles, Kaminsky landed him the ABC role via the agent’s broadcasting contacts.
Recalled Dryden, who at the time was taking bar admission courses in Ottawa prior and during the Olympics: “Art said, ‘Ken, would you like to do the color for Olympic hockey,’ and I said, ‘Yeah, that sounds interesting.’ My only question as to whether I could do the tournament was the bar course. Ottawa to Lake Placid was pretty good news — at least it was within driving range. The problem was I would have a subject starting on a Monday and an exam on Friday, or depending on the course, maybe the second Friday. So there were going to be exams going on during the Olympics. I had to make my exams, and how could I do it? I had to be in Ottawa on certain Fridays. But, I figured, heck, we can work out awkward. So I said yes to doing it, and find a way to get there.”
Dryden and Michaels traveled together to Moscow in late 1979 for a pre-Olympic tournament, which gave them a sense of what the Olympic teams would be like. Like most hockey observers, it seemed inconceivable that any other team would be atop of the medal stand other than the Soviets, winners of four consecutive Olympic gold medals in hockey.
“If I was to sort of assess the teams going in, I mean, by far and away, the strongest team were the Soviets,” Dryden said. “Next would be Sweden and Czechoslovakia and not necessarily in one order. The two of them would be fairly equivalent to second and third. Finland was just a little bit behind. They would give the first three trouble, but they could never really beat them. And then Canada and the U.S. would come after that. But really, it was the singular team at the top: The Soviets.
“I remember saying during the Olympic coverage and then saying it again in the pregame prior to our broadcast of the Soviet game was that the biggest thing the U.S. team had going for it was that every one of the U.S. players had been a big star for all of their hockey-playing lives. They had been the big stars at seven years old, at 10, at 12. They were high school stars. They were college All-Americans. They were captains on their teams. They were the most skillful players. They could skate. They had played leadership roles and they had won championships. They knew what playing in championship games were like and carrying the responsibility of being the best player on their teams. They hadn’t yet gone through sort of the experience of leveling yet. So what you did know about the U.S. team was they had an unknowable ceiling to them. They were in a position where you have to discover yourself their best had not yet been revealed to themselves or to anybody.”
Dryden roomed with Kaminsky at a Hilton in Lake Placid (Dorothy Hamill had the room next door) for the duration of the Olympics. While Kaminsky had the foresight to sign all of those Olympians, he did not have the foresight to reserve a hotel room in time. Kaminsky was on the phone in the room most of the time cutting deals so Dryden would sit outside their room, his 6-foot-4 frame against the wall, and study legal subjects in between hockey analysis.
The game against the Soviets was played at 5:00 p.m. ET local time on Feb. 22 and as crazy as this sounds in 2020, the game was tape-delayed. Michaels and Dryden were mostly featured in cut-ins for the earlier games in the tournament as ABC would check in on hockey in between other events.
“We didn’t know when they were going to cut to us and away from some other event,” Dryden said. “The other thing was they did not stay with us during commercials. That became something very significant for Al and me. Because it’s after the whistle blows, the color guy has something to say. The way in which the coverage was going, there was no real space for the color guy. So what Al said to me was, ‘Look, if you have something to say, just cut in and say it. We can make our own rules in terms of how we are going to do these games.’ We could do it in a way that we thought was more contemporary, where you don’t announce every player and every pass and every check. The only thing that was clear to us was if the puck was in any threatening area of the ice, I had to stop so Al’s voice had a chance to enhance the excitement of the moment. It was only as we got to the Soviet game where even though it was tape-delayed, we were doing it in a much more normal kind of commentary way.”
Michaels and Dryden called the Miracle on Ice game as if they were live on-air the whole time. The broadcast booth at the Olympic Fieldhouse (now Herb Brooks Arena) was a cross between a traditional booth and sitting in the stands.
“We were pretty much sitting in the seats, which was great,” Dryden said. “The only difficulty of it was there was so much noise around us. I’m not an experienced announcer so when there’s that much noise, you feel as if you have to speak to a level beyond that noise. The other thing with my voice, I didn’t really know it then but there is a kind of nature sound to it. As low as it is, it can kind of disappear into other sounds. I remember in games I would have my producer’s voice in my ear saying, ‘Ken, I can’t hear you. You’ve got to get louder.’ So I’m shouting because of all the noise around us in order to hear myself a little bit. Whatever the noise was in previous games. It just was that much louder for the Soviet game. And that much more exciting and thrilling.”
Dryden said he remembers being wired after the conclusion of Miracle game — he and Michaels also had to call the Finland-Sweden 3-3 tie that followed that night (the Fins advanced — and he couldn’t sleep well. “I was probably doing some stuff on whatever that next exam was going to be,” he said. “You had the perfect instrument to keep you awake after going through something as exciting as that.”
Dryden, now 72, left Lake Placid and went on to have a number of remarkable lives, including as a lawyer, federal member of Canadian parliament and cabinet minister, and a massively successful author. He is the author of seven books and his latest was published last October — “Scotty: A Hockey Life Like No Other.” It serves a memoir for Hall of Fame coach Scotty Bowman and was a runaway best-seller in Canada. Dryden said he has never seen the Miracle game in full since it aired 40 years ago. But he has thought often about the game, and I found his synopsis of how the underdog U.S. overcame seemingly insurmountable odds fascinating.
“I know I said something like this during the broadcast: Once the game begins, it is going to take on its own rhythm, whatever that is going to be,” Dryden said. “If you try to dissect how a big underdog beats a big favorite it almost always happens the same way. Playing in Montreal with the teams I was on, there was a certain way that we would lose. It wasn’t that we started a game down 2-0 in the first five minutes and they’d score a goal and it would be 3-0 in the middle of the first period and we’d never catch up. If that happened in a game, we would almost assuredly always win because two things would happen: One, is it would be a slap in the face and we would know we had 50 minutes to set it right again. The other team would be in a situation where they never expected to be ahead of us by three goals in the middle of the first period. Now, what were they going to do? How are they going to play? They would almost never pull it off.
“The way you defeat a huge favorite is that you hang with them and hang with them a long time. The best way to hang with them in hockey is that your best hanging-in-player is your goalie. The goalie has to keep you in it. The other team is going to be better than you are but the goalie, by virtue of the position, is a neutralizer. You don’t want to be ahead of the big favorite in a game, and you especially don’t want to be ahead at the end of a period because if it’s the end of a period, then the team that is so much better than the other team is going to get really mad at itself. They will come back in that next period and they will be ready to change everything around. You don’t want them to feel the urgency and the panic of the moment early. Then the next period begins and it’s the same thing: You don’t get ahead of the favorite. You hang in there. You know that your goalie keeps you close and you just hang in there. The other guy doesn’t smell panic yet.
“Then you ambush them in the third period. You’ve hung around and all of a sudden, the team that is weaker starts to think, ‘You know, it is only 20 minutes. We are in this game and it’s only 20 minutes to go.’ And the favorite is saying, ‘Jesus, we are tied and it’s only 20 minutes to go.’ They start to panic a little bit and the underdog starts to feel that they have found a level they never had before and now it gets incredibly exciting.”
Dryden continued.
“My heavens, it’s after 40 minutes and we’re still in the game against the Soviet Union, the strongest team in the world. We’re still there. If you’re looking to discover a level you never had before, you’re now ready to do that. Then with every minute that passes, the favorite starts to worry. Then when you get to (Mike) Eruzione goal and it’s only about 10 minutes to go, it is full panic in terms of the Soviets and its full exhilaration in terms of the U.S. This team that could not be beaten is now behind and they are starting to doubt themselves and they don’t know what to do because they’ve never been in that position before. They are now on the verge of losing in the Olympics, to the U.S. of all teams. What they want desperately more than anything is to let the game start again. ‘If we only could go back to the beginning, we’d be more ready.’ They start to make mistakes because they’re panicking and the U.S. guys start to see panic in their eyes.
“Then it’s a free-for-all. That’s the way the giant underdog beats the giant favorite. Of course you cannot orchestrate a game like that but if you could orchestrate it, it would be exactly how that game in 1980 happened. By the time you get to the end, the unthinkable is no longer unthinkable at all. It is absolutely possible.”
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 21, 2020 13:33:16 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 21, 2020 14:33:36 GMT -5
Over the last 2.5 seasons Kase ranks 27th out of 492 forwards in 5v5 expected goals per 60, tied with McDavid, just ahead of Bergeron and Seguin.
His goals per 60 ranks 25th, just below Marchand, tied with Atkinson, Tarasenko, Point.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 21, 2020 14:35:53 GMT -5
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