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Post by madmarx on Feb 21, 2020 14:42:14 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 21, 2020 16:12:12 GMT -5
That link takes me to a Bobby Ryan presser, do you know something we don’t, is this some kind of insider trading?😀
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Post by bruinsnorth on Feb 21, 2020 16:16:30 GMT -5
I am not into all of these fancy stats but when I look at this I wonder how this would compare to Heinen. It seems like Heinen does well in the fancy stats but god help us if you need him to score a goal. Maybe Kase is the right shooting Danton Heinen. Anyways we got Backes off the books so that should help with the Cap woes. I wonder if a Krug extension is coming soon?
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Post by DonnyBrook on Feb 21, 2020 16:31:09 GMT -5
the stat i dont like is how many games he misses.
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Post by madmarx on Feb 21, 2020 20:12:40 GMT -5
That link takes me to a Bobby Ryan presser, do you know something we don’t, is this some kind of insider trading?😀 It was Ryan’s presser coming back from rehab and his struggles seeking help ..🤷♂️
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Post by madmarx on Feb 21, 2020 20:15:42 GMT -5
I am not into all of these fancy stats but when I look at this I wonder how this would compare to Heinen. It seems like Heinen does well in the fancy stats but god help us if you need him to score a goal. Maybe Kase is the right shooting Danton Heinen. Anyways we got Backes off the books so that should help with the Cap woes. I wonder if a Krug extension is coming soon? Same the eye test works the best , but apparently Kase is really good in the shoot out ..4 for 5 this year 7-14 career ..
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 21, 2020 23:03:28 GMT -5
That link takes me to a Bobby Ryan presser, do you know something we don’t, is this some kind of insider trading?😀 It was Ryan’s presser coming back from rehab and his struggles seeking help ..🤷♂️ Sorry, I was so focused on the trade and thinking about what could come next I was thinking the link might be the wrong one. I really am rooting for Bobby Ryan to make it back successfully and have a good quality of life.
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Post by madmarx on Feb 21, 2020 23:48:02 GMT -5
It was Ryan’s presser coming back from rehab and his struggles seeking help ..🤷♂️ Sorry, I was so focused on the trade and thinking about what could come next I was thinking the link might be the wrong one. I really am routing for Bobby Ryan to make it back successfully and have a good quality of life. No worries we’re good
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Post by skemack on Feb 22, 2020 13:48:57 GMT -5
It was Ryan’s presser coming back from rehab and his struggles seeking help ..🤷♂️ Sorry, I was so focused on the trade and thinking about what could come next I was thinking the link might be the wrong one. I really am routing for Bobby Ryan to make it back successfully and have a good quality of life. Me too, he really had a shitty upbringing and it would be nice for him to get control of his demons. I have been rooting for him for a while now.
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Post by RascalHoudi on Feb 24, 2020 10:53:49 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 27, 2020 9:44:24 GMT -5
On Nov. 12, 2015, less than five months after he went 14th overall in the 2015 draft, Jake DeBrusk signed his entry-level contract. DeBrusk, born on Oct. 17, 1996, was 19 years old.
Technically, however, DeBrusk was considered an 18-year-old under the collective bargaining agreement, which locks in a player’s age as of Sept. 15 of the calendar year in which he signs his entry-level contract. DeBrusk spent 2015-16 completing his junior career in Swift Current and Red Deer. The following year, DeBrusk spent his entire first pro season in Providence.
All of those dates and technical definitions are critical now as DeBrusk’s entry-level contract approaches expiration. DeBrusk became subject to Article 9.1 (d) (ii) by signing when he did and not appearing in 10 or more NHL games as a first-year pro.
Because of those two qualifiers, DeBrusk’s entry-level contract slid. In essence, DeBrusk has given the Bruins four years of professional service for the cost of three.
DeBrusk, in other words, has provided the Bruins maximum value throughout his first deal. He is under no obligation to replicate such goodwill on his second contract.
It’s part of the reason general manager Don Sweeney cleared approximately $3.2 million in salary from next year’s books by moving out David Backes (saving $4.5 million after retaining 25 percent of his $6 million average annual value) and Danton Heinen ($2.8 million) and incorporating Ondrej Kase ($2.6 million) and Nick Ritchie ($1,498,925).
DeBrusk, Matt Grzelcyk, Anders Bjork and Karson Kuhlman will be restricted free agents at year’s end. Torey Krug, Jaroslav Halak and Zdeno Chara can be unrestricted. Every dollar counts in Sweeney’s mandate to keep the Bruins competitive.
Even so, not everybody will be back.
Making space The contract of the departed Matt Beleskey ends after this season. It means the Bruins’ $1.9 million salary retention, part of the Rick Nash trade, will cease, too. Ditto for the $1,166,667 dead money applied toward Dennis Seidenberg’s buyout.
It’s safe to say that Kevan Miller ($2.5 million) will not return. Odds are against Joakim Nordstrom ($1 million) being re-signed.
According to Sweeney, the Bruins will likely carry an overage penalty toward their 2020-21 number based primarily on projected performance bonuses for DeBrusk and Chara. The cap is not expected to rise significantly from this year’s $81.5 million upper limit.
So assuming players on non-expiring contracts stay and the Bruins start 2020-21 with Jack Studnicka and Trent Frederic, they could have somewhere in the ballpark of $18 million to work with as they round out their roster.
Investing more than a third of it in Krug may not be in their plans.
“I’ve got to believe,” said one agent, “they let him go.”
On Monday, Sweeney termed his talks with Lewis Gross, Krug’s agent, as cordial. The industry belief is that the Bruins will hold firm to limits in term and salary that would not be in place if Krug, 28, tests unrestricted free agency.
The aforementioned agent speculated that in this market — Jake Muzzin landing a four-year, $22.5 million extension and Jared Spurgeon scoring seven years and $53.025 million — Krug could command seven years and $49 million on July 1 when free agency opens. Not only would that stretch his term out longer than the Bruins would prefer, but the average annual value would also smash the $6.825 million Patrice Bergeron ceiling that contained David Pastrnak and Brad Marchand. The Bruins have internal options, from Grzelcyk, Urho Vaakanainen and Jeremy Lauzon on the left side for five-on-five to Charlie McAvoy on the power play. They must also account for the 2021 expansion draft. They are likely to use the 7-3-1 protection template (seven forwards, three defensemen and one goalie).
From Krug’s perspective, his next contract is his final home-run swing. Boston has been a perfect fit. But Bergeron, Rask, Chara and David Krejci will say goodbye during Krug’s next deal. He may see a more competitive situation elsewhere.
Grzelcyk, one of Krug’s potential successors, is up for his own deal, too. Grzelcyk could use Krug’s situation to his benefit. If Krug walks on July 1, Grzelcyk’s price will go up. He could gain additional leverage by filing for arbitration.
As critical as Krug is to the Bruins’ success, there are other blue-line alternatives they could explore. That is not necessarily the case with Halak.
Among the Bruins’ goaltending depth: Maxime Lagace, who is 27 and has a .918 save percentage in Providence, will be unrestricted. Dan Vladar, 22 and with a .931 save percentage, has revived his pro career. A concussion to Kyle Keyser, 20, has practically wiped out his first pro season.
The goaltending market, at the same time, has shifted. The Bruins have set the trend. The days of No. 1 workhorses are over. Teams recognize the value of experienced, high-performing tandems such as Rask and Halak, Ben Bishop and Anton Khudobin, Marc-Andre Fleury and Robin Lehner, and Jordan Binnington and Jake Allen.
Accordingly, prices are rising for goalies of Halak’s profile. Halak will be 35 when his next deal starts. As such, if he signs a multi-year deal, his employer will not be eligible for cap relief upon retirement, long-term injury or AHL assignment prior to the contract’s expiration.
Normally, that would limit Halak’s options. The movement toward tandems may adjust prior restrictions.
Considering that Chicago, Detroit and Vancouver are among the teams likely to be in the market for a second goalie, the Bruins might have to offer Halak at least a two-year extension to bring him back. Otherwise, they’ll have to declare Vladar ready for the NHL or do some shopping of their own on July 1.
If it’s the latter, the cost will not come close to the dough they’ll need to re-up DeBrusk.
Big raise coming DeBrusk has 18 goals, fourth most on the team. He is on pace to score 23. If that holds true, the No. 2 left wing will depart the entry-level system with 66 career goals.
That output will place DeBrusk in a cluster including the following comparables out of players on entry-level deals: Matthew Tkachuk (71 goals), Kyle Connor (67), Travis Konecny (59), Brock Boeser (55) and Timo Meier (54).
On their second deals, the five earned average annual values, respectively, of $7 million; $7.142,857; $5.5 million; $5.875 million; and $6 million. Considering those guideposts and Pastrnak’s $6,666,666 internal threshold, a $5.5 million annual payday for DeBrusk is not out of the question. Then incorporate the fact that DeBrusk did the team a solid in entry level and would seek one in return.
In sum, it’s unlikely DeBrusk will accept anything less than true market value, even if he is a year short of arbitration rights. Had DeBrusk deferred signing his contract by one year, this would have been the first season of his extension. As such, DeBrusk would be earning at least $4 million this year.
Instead, he’s making $832,500 in base salary. It’s why some agents expressly forbid late-birthday clients from signing early and making themselves eligible for entry-level slides.
If the Bruins can re-sign DeBrusk and Halak for an $8 million annual total, it would give them $10 million to distribute among Krug, Grzelcyk, Bjork, Kuhlman and Chara. That’s not likely to be enough.
It’s why, unless Krug accepts a below-market price, the second-pairing defenseman may be entering his final months with the Bruins — despite all the work the Bruins just did to clear extra cap space.
“We’re just trying to balance winning right now and doing the best we can for our hockey club,” Sweeney said, “and keeping an eye on the future and not jeopardizing that or compromising that.”
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 28, 2020 10:28:35 GMT -5
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Post by KSJ08 on Feb 28, 2020 13:27:05 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Feb 29, 2020 20:17:51 GMT -5
Everyone is celebrating Miracle on Ice and Sidney’s goal ten years ago for Me the 72 summit series stopped everything in Canada i will never forget that series as long as I live .. Where were you ??
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 1, 2020 9:37:39 GMT -5
Everyone is celebrating Miracle on Ice and Sidney’s goal ten years ago for Me the 72 summit series stopped everything in Canada i will never forget that series as long as I live .. Where were you ?? I was 7 and at the children’s hospital in St John’s. Nothing serious, just a hip problem but I didn’t see it. Feels like I saw live because I’ve seen it so many times since. It was great on so many levels which I didn’t understand at the time. You could never recreate that series, it was about so much more than just hockey.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 1, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -5
Miracle on Ice. I was on. Train coming back from Florida. It was a 36 hour trip. We had no idea they had won until we woke up that Saturday morning and someone had a newspaper with the headline USA. USA. I remember running up and down the cars chanting that over and over. I was 12 years old.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 1, 2020 13:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Mar 1, 2020 14:43:03 GMT -5
I was ten when the summit series was played it was a Very different World back then the Russians were truly hated and the enemy of everyone back then ..We got to listen to the game at school on the radio and some got to watch on TV ..Henderson lived a few blocks from my house I still remember them decorating his house and came home to a heroes welcome.. Still can’t believe they didn’t put him in the hall ..
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 1, 2020 21:11:22 GMT -5
I was ten when the summit series was played it was a Very different World back then the Russians were truly hated and the enemy of everyone back then ..We got to listen to the game at school on the radio and some got to watch on TV ..Henderson lived a few blocks from my house I still remember them decorating his house and came home to a heroes welcome.. Still can’t believe they didn’t put him in the hall .. I remember watching that series on my black and white 10 in tv in French. Couldn’t understand much but loved watching it.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 1, 2020 21:36:20 GMT -5
I was ten when the summit series was played it was a Very different World back then the Russians were truly hated and the enemy of everyone back then ..We got to listen to the game at school on the radio and some got to watch on TV ..Henderson lived a few blocks from my house I still remember them decorating his house and came home to a heroes welcome.. Still can’t believe they didn’t put him in the hall .. I remember watching that series on my black and white 10 in tv in French. Couldn’t understand much but loved watching it. Kids today are so friggin spoiled 🤬
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Post by Losing my mind on Mar 2, 2020 6:33:16 GMT -5
Everyone is celebrating Miracle on Ice and Sidney’s goal ten years ago for Me the 72 summit series stopped everything in Canada i will never forget that series as long as I live .. Where were you ?? I was a twinkle in my dad's eye! It would be another 12 years before I would be born! LOL I've seen the series several times, my brother and I bought it for my dad on VHS when we were kids as a Christmas present.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 2, 2020 17:28:15 GMT -5
bruins, blues and preds lead the league in goals that were changed to no goal with 6 each.
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Post by crafar01 on Mar 3, 2020 16:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by chesterbear on Mar 3, 2020 18:57:40 GMT -5
I was ten when the summit series was played it was a Very different World back then the Russians were truly hated and the enemy of everyone back then ..We got to listen to the game at school on the radio and some got to watch on TV ..Henderson lived a few blocks from my house I still remember them decorating his house and came home to a heroes welcome.. Still can’t believe they didn’t put him in the hall .. I would have been 8 at the time ,I remember they had the radio on at school so we could hear the games and the last game when Henderson scored we were all out in the road in front of the house playing road hockey with a radio out on the deck reliving every play,something I will never forget,we never had a tv at that time
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2020 11:15:08 GMT -5
We may have room for Toey afterall. Still wouldn't give him a dime over 6 mill.
NHL projecting a salary cap for next season somewhere from $84-88.2 million
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2020 11:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Mar 4, 2020 16:14:16 GMT -5
NHL is going to use a new puck with a transmitter in it to start the Playoffs 🤬
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Post by crafar01 on Mar 4, 2020 17:47:48 GMT -5
NHL is going to use a new puck with a transmitter in it to start the Playoffs 🤬 As long as it ain't glowing, we're good.
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Post by nfld77 on Mar 4, 2020 18:36:00 GMT -5
Talking about cap space next season, anyone else beside me REALLY surprised Sweeney never moved Moores contract.For a decent veteran Dman getting paid under 3 million a season, I thought he was as good as gone. I figured for sure there had to be teams out there looking for a cheap dman either for depth or as a regular. Bruins, even with Clifton and Miller hurt, are still deep in this position and having an extra 2.75 million would of went a long way considering all the players not signed.
Why do you think he wasnt moved?? Is he not worth it or did DS want to keep him..I really dount the latter considering the depth but I would love someone elses opinion here. I'm really lost on this one..
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Post by KSJ08 on Mar 4, 2020 19:15:28 GMT -5
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