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Post by orym on Jun 27, 2022 11:30:09 GMT -5
Final Standings - Playoff Prognosticators!
Seabass - 195 KSJ08 - 145 kjc2 - 110 Losing my mind - 100 nfld77 - 95 orym - 75 fforr - 70
Congrats Seabass! See you all next year for Playoff Prognosticators! Let's hope the Bruins hang around a little longer next year!
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Post by SeaBass on Jun 27, 2022 11:59:25 GMT -5
Final Standings - Playoff Prognosticators! Seabass - 195 KSJ08 - 145 kjc2 - 110 Losing my mind - 100 nfld77 - 95 orym - 75 fforr - 70 Congrats Seabass! See you all next year for Playoff Prognosticators! Let's hope the Bruins hang around a little longer next year! Damn...I finally won! Thanks for doing this.
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Post by orym on Jun 27, 2022 12:28:49 GMT -5
Final Standings - Playoff Prognosticators! Seabass - 195 KSJ08 - 145 kjc2 - 110 Losing my mind - 100 nfld77 - 95 orym - 75 fforr - 70 Congrats Seabass! See you all next year for Playoff Prognosticators! Let's hope the Bruins hang around a little longer next year! Damn...I finally won! Thanks for doing this. A perfect final round! I tried to pick against your picks hoping I could slide ahead of you but you absolutely nailed it!
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Post by madmarx on Jun 27, 2022 15:32:48 GMT -5
Final Standings - Playoff Prognosticators! Seabass - 195 KSJ08 - 145 kjc2 - 110 Losing my mind - 100 nfld77 - 95 orym - 75 fforr - 70 Congrats Seabass! See you all next year for Playoff Prognosticators! Let's hope the Bruins hang around a little longer next year! Congratulations Seabass
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Post by KSJ08 on Jun 27, 2022 15:56:04 GMT -5
Final Standings - Playoff Prognosticators! Seabass - 195 KSJ08 - 145 kjc2 - 110 Losing my mind - 100 nfld77 - 95 orym - 75 fforr - 70 Congrats Seabass! See you all next year for Playoff Prognosticators! Let's hope the Bruins hang around a little longer next year! Congrats to you Seabass!! Thought I was gonna pull it out Friday night W/Avs winning in 5, But I'll take them beating bolts no matter how many it took!
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Post by fforr on Jun 27, 2022 16:02:49 GMT -5
Final Standings - Playoff Prognosticators! Seabass - 195 KSJ08 - 145 kjc2 - 110 Losing my mind - 100 nfld77 - 95 orym - 75 fforr - 70 Congrats Seabass! See you all next year for Playoff Prognosticators! Let's hope the Bruins hang around a little longer next year! Thanks for all the time and effort put in orym. Great job SB! Have a good feeling about things next year. 🍺
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Post by SeaBass on Jun 27, 2022 18:53:24 GMT -5
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Post by nfld77 on Jun 27, 2022 19:24:13 GMT -5
Congrats Seabass and great job Ory as expected!!
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Post by kjc2 on Jun 27, 2022 20:57:07 GMT -5
Congrats Seabass and a very well done to orym!
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Post by SeaBass on Jun 29, 2022 12:11:43 GMT -5
Don Sweeney deserved his contract extension. Under the general manager’s watch, the Bruins made the playoffs the past six seasons. Only five other teams can say that.
Whether Sweeney is equipped to oversee the franchise’s next phase, whenever that commences, may be another matter.
One reason ownership endorsed Sweeney’s performance with a multi-year deal is their trust in the roster he’s built. You could argue, regardless of Patrice Bergeron’s future, that the 2022-23 Bruins are several pieces short of the Stanley Cup. Sweeney’s retort would be that with Bergeron back and a player-friendly coach coaxing more production out of some of the other returnees, the Bruins will be playing into the spring for a seventh straight year.
Aside from his first throat-clearing season in 2015-16, Sweeney has known nothing else.
He has acquired help prior to the trade deadline in each of his seven seasons as GM, from Lee Stempniak and John-Michael Liles in 2016 to Hampus Lindholm in 2022. His results — and his bosses’ extension of job security — indicate he is a strong GM when the franchise is in win-now mode.
“We have had a good team,” Sweeney said on June 7, a day after firing Bruce Cassidy. “We’re going to continue to have a good team. Do we have to pivot based on where injuries are? It may come.”
Pivoting is the last thing Sweeney wants to do, though.
In 2015, it wasn’t fun for the first-year GM to trade Dougie Hamilton and Milan Lucic. The 22-year-old Hamilton, whose entry-level contract was expiring, looked like a long-term top-pairing defenseman. Lucic was Lucic, a singular power forward who could change a game with one forceful forecheck.
But Hamilton wanted out. Lucic, who was entering the final season of his three-year, $18 million contract, was not going to be extended.
Seven years later, Sweeney has no trade chips as sparkly as Hamilton or Lucic. The best he could offer is Matt Grzelcyk or Mike Reilly, two of the five left-shot defensemen the Bruins have under contract.
Unless David Pastrnak comes into play.
Like Lucic in 2015, Pastrnak has one year remaining on his contract before becoming unrestricted. Unlike Lucic, Pastrnak is firmly in the Bruins’ long-term plans. He is one of their foundational players, just as important to the attack as Charlie McAvoy is to the blue line. The No. 25 pick from 2014 is not the type of player nor personality teams allow to walk. With Pastrnak scoring, McAvoy doing everything and Jeremy Swayman developing into an ace, the Bruins may have the generational pillars who could extend the organization’s playoff streak farther into the future.
Familiarity, happiness and a raise — the latter would come, in all likelihood, via an eight-year offer — may be enough to keep Pastrnak with the only employer he’s known. All those things have a way of making prior dissatisfaction feel less nettlesome.
But if Pastrnak sees a future more unappealing than the past he’s enjoyed, he might not be so quick to reach for his pen. The Bruins, then, would have no choice but to trade their two-time 40-goal scorer. Doing so would initiate the rebuild via the picks and prospects Pastrnak would surely bring back.
That is not, however, a path Sweeney wishes to travel. It is just the opposite.
Sweeney wants to set a stage of stability to convince Pastrnak to re-sign. Otherwise, a team without Pastrnak’s presence is not one that can contend for regular postseason qualification, let alone the Stanley Cup.
All of this may be a moot point if Pastrnak prefers Boston as his permanent residence. Even so, there would come a time when Pastrnak, McAvoy, Swayman and the rest of the next core require more reinforcements than they currently have. For now, such assistance is difficult to identify.
“Nothing,” one amateur scouting director said when asked if the Bruins had any help coming.
Fabian Lysell, the No. 21 pick in 2021, was the lone player the director cited. Lysell could make the varsity this fall. He would be following the lead of Pastrnak, who was 18 when he appeared in 46 games for the Bruins in 2014-15.
The Bruins did not make the playoffs that year. It cost former GM Peter Chiarelli his job.
Part of Sweeney’s hold on power is because of how swiftly and efficiently he executed an on-the-fly rebuild. Whether he can turn the trick twice remains to be seen. The infrastructure Sweeney had in place before — Bergeron, Zdeno Chara, Tuukka Rask, David Krejci, Brad Marchand, Pastrnak — is bearing the cracks of time.
Meanwhile, the next generation is short-handed, mostly because of Sweeney’s all-in deadline philosophy. Few teams could replenish swiftly after trading three first-round picks and three second-rounders for Lindholm, Taylor Hall, Ondrej Kase and Rick Nash. The Bruins have simply not had enough kicks at the draft can.
All of this could leave Sweeney in an unfamiliar position: as GM of a rebuilding team. How he would perform under such circumstances is unknown.
What is certain is that a full rebuild will take time. It is no wonder, then, that Sweeney wants to put off such a project for as long as possible.
Deferral, in fact, is his mandate.
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Post by Losing my mind on Jun 29, 2022 15:24:49 GMT -5
Congrats Seabass! I missed 2 rounds and ended up fourth! I'm impressed. lol
Tanks for taking the time orym, it is really appreciated. After the Bruins were eliminated, I stopped paying attention to hockey for a bit.
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Post by orym on Jun 29, 2022 17:18:45 GMT -5
Congrats Seabass! I missed 2 rounds and ended up fourth! I'm impressed. lol Tanks for taking the time orym, it is really appreciated. After the Bruins were eliminated, I stopped paying attention to hockey for a bit. That's why I didn't take you off the standings. I figured you might make a return and push for the championship You beat my arse! My round one was decent and then that was about it hah!
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Post by kjc2 on Jun 29, 2022 21:04:51 GMT -5
Don Sweeney deserved his contract extension. Under the general manager’s watch, the Bruins made the playoffs the past six seasons. Only five other teams can say that. Whether Sweeney is equipped to oversee the franchise’s next phase, whenever that commences, may be another matter. One reason ownership endorsed Sweeney’s performance with a multi-year deal is their trust in the roster he’s built. You could argue, regardless of Patrice Bergeron’s future, that the 2022-23 Bruins are several pieces short of the Stanley Cup. Sweeney’s retort would be that with Bergeron back and a player-friendly coach coaxing more production out of some of the other returnees, the Bruins will be playing into the spring for a seventh straight year. Aside from his first throat-clearing season in 2015-16, Sweeney has known nothing else. He has acquired help prior to the trade deadline in each of his seven seasons as GM, from Lee Stempniak and John-Michael Liles in 2016 to Hampus Lindholm in 2022. His results — and his bosses’ extension of job security — indicate he is a strong GM when the franchise is in win-now mode. “We have had a good team,” Sweeney said on June 7, a day after firing Bruce Cassidy. “We’re going to continue to have a good team. Do we have to pivot based on where injuries are? It may come.” Pivoting is the last thing Sweeney wants to do, though. In 2015, it wasn’t fun for the first-year GM to trade Dougie Hamilton and Milan Lucic. The 22-year-old Hamilton, whose entry-level contract was expiring, looked like a long-term top-pairing defenseman. Lucic was Lucic, a singular power forward who could change a game with one forceful forecheck. But Hamilton wanted out. Lucic, who was entering the final season of his three-year, $18 million contract, was not going to be extended. Seven years later, Sweeney has no trade chips as sparkly as Hamilton or Lucic. The best he could offer is Matt Grzelcyk or Mike Reilly, two of the five left-shot defensemen the Bruins have under contract. Unless David Pastrnak comes into play. Like Lucic in 2015, Pastrnak has one year remaining on his contract before becoming unrestricted. Unlike Lucic, Pastrnak is firmly in the Bruins’ long-term plans. He is one of their foundational players, just as important to the attack as Charlie McAvoy is to the blue line. The No. 25 pick from 2014 is not the type of player nor personality teams allow to walk. With Pastrnak scoring, McAvoy doing everything and Jeremy Swayman developing into an ace, the Bruins may have the generational pillars who could extend the organization’s playoff streak farther into the future. Familiarity, happiness and a raise — the latter would come, in all likelihood, via an eight-year offer — may be enough to keep Pastrnak with the only employer he’s known. All those things have a way of making prior dissatisfaction feel less nettlesome. But if Pastrnak sees a future more unappealing than the past he’s enjoyed, he might not be so quick to reach for his pen. The Bruins, then, would have no choice but to trade their two-time 40-goal scorer. Doing so would initiate the rebuild via the picks and prospects Pastrnak would surely bring back. That is not, however, a path Sweeney wishes to travel. It is just the opposite. Sweeney wants to set a stage of stability to convince Pastrnak to re-sign. Otherwise, a team without Pastrnak’s presence is not one that can contend for regular postseason qualification, let alone the Stanley Cup. All of this may be a moot point if Pastrnak prefers Boston as his permanent residence. Even so, there would come a time when Pastrnak, McAvoy, Swayman and the rest of the next core require more reinforcements than they currently have. For now, such assistance is difficult to identify. “Nothing,” one amateur scouting director said when asked if the Bruins had any help coming. Fabian Lysell, the No. 21 pick in 2021, was the lone player the director cited. Lysell could make the varsity this fall. He would be following the lead of Pastrnak, who was 18 when he appeared in 46 games for the Bruins in 2014-15. The Bruins did not make the playoffs that year. It cost former GM Peter Chiarelli his job. Part of Sweeney’s hold on power is because of how swiftly and efficiently he executed an on-the-fly rebuild. Whether he can turn the trick twice remains to be seen. The infrastructure Sweeney had in place before — Bergeron, Zdeno Chara, Tuukka Rask, David Krejci, Brad Marchand, Pastrnak — is bearing the cracks of time. Meanwhile, the next generation is short-handed, mostly because of Sweeney’s all-in deadline philosophy. Few teams could replenish swiftly after trading three first-round picks and three second-rounders for Lindholm, Taylor Hall, Ondrej Kase and Rick Nash. The Bruins have simply not had enough kicks at the draft can. All of this could leave Sweeney in an unfamiliar position: as GM of a rebuilding team. How he would perform under such circumstances is unknown. What is certain is that a full rebuild will take time. It is no wonder, then, that Sweeney wants to put off such a project for as long as possible. Deferral, in fact, is his mandate. Awesome, a lot of fluffy garbage there. I think Bruins fans know where the Bruins stand and it’s not good. As much as I’m okay with deferral for Bergeron and maybe Krejci that’s not going to help the rebuild. Sweeney might have bought himself another year but I’m doubtful he gets beyond that.
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Post by nfld77 on Jun 30, 2022 10:12:29 GMT -5
I like most of us love that Bergeron is returning for at least another yr BUT that dont fix the problems Bruins have..Clearly losing Marchand and McAvoy for ANY lenght of time hurts alot and they cant trade Grzelyk until he returns from his surgery..It's a tough situation for ant GM and you cant help injuries BUT Sweeney needs to figure out what direction he's gonna steer this ship!! Will he go younger through the draft and try to move back to the 1st rd or will it be along the lines of last season?? Honestly I dunno what Bruins can offer a team to get them to give up their 1st rd pick. I expect some very unpopular moves coming this summer..
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Post by madmarx on Jun 30, 2022 11:43:54 GMT -5
**Keep an eye 👁 on ** I’m told David Krejci is currently spending part of his Summer in S.Carolina…with the injuries and new HC soon for the @nhlbruins , is there a chance he makes a return to the B’s this season ? @espn @nhl #HockeyTwitte
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Post by kjc2 on Jun 30, 2022 11:56:51 GMT -5
Elliott Friedman was saying he expects the Bruins head coach to be named today.
Who is considered the front runner these days? Quinn? Leach?
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Post by orym on Jun 30, 2022 11:59:16 GMT -5
Elliott Friedman was saying he expects the Bruins head coach to be named today. Who is considered the front runner these days? Quinn? Leach? I heard on local sports radio that it looked like Quinn but Mike Vellucci and Jay Leach seem to be in the mix. Jim Montgomery a possibility as well.
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Post by madmarx on Jun 30, 2022 14:07:08 GMT -5
Heard Jim Montgomery?
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Post by nfld77 on Jun 30, 2022 14:32:50 GMT -5
Alot of names being mentioned..I think Leach or Quinn.
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Post by fforr on Jun 30, 2022 19:37:38 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Jun 30, 2022 20:32:41 GMT -5
Boston Globe says it is Montgomery.
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Post by SeaBass on Jun 30, 2022 20:36:25 GMT -5
ESPN has an article stating Montgomery has the job.
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Post by skemack on Jun 30, 2022 20:46:50 GMT -5
Out of curiosity why? I was never impressed with him when he was a head coach of Dallas. Just curious as to why you think he is better hire then Jay Leach or Dan Quinn?
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Post by SeaBass on Jun 30, 2022 20:53:38 GMT -5
Montgomery had a great relationship with the Blues young players, particularly Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou, who had breakout 82-game seasons. From the sounds of the coaching change in Boston, that’s what the Bruins were looking for. #stlblues
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Post by skemack on Jun 30, 2022 21:27:26 GMT -5
Montgomery had a great relationship with the Blues young players, particularly Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou, who had breakout 82-game seasons. From the sounds of the coaching change in Boston, that’s what the Bruins were looking for. #stlblues Interestingly both of those players are from the 2018 Canada Junior team that is the subject of a major investigation here in Canada and the team responsible for an incident that so far has had federal government funding of the entire program temporarily terminated. Sponsors are pulling sponsorship of the world junior tournament now as well. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships_rostersOther interesting names from that team that is now under fire: Cale Makar, Carter Hart, Drake Batherson, Alex Formentin, Tyler Raddish, Jake Bean, and Dante Fabbro. Do not know which players were involved in the incident but needless to say it is not good.
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Post by nfld77 on Jun 30, 2022 22:11:15 GMT -5
Montgomery had a great relationship with the Blues young players, particularly Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou, who had breakout 82-game seasons. From the sounds of the coaching change in Boston, that’s what the Bruins were looking for. #stlblues Interestingly both of those players are from the 2018 Canada Junior team that is the subject of a major investigation here in Canada and the team responsible for an incident that so far has had federal government funding of the entire program temporarily terminated. Sponsors are pulling sponsorship of the world junior tournament now as well. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships_rostersOther interesting names from that team that is now under fire: Cale Makar, Carter Hart, Drake Batherson, Alex Formentin, Tyler Raddish, Jake Bean, and Dante Fabbro. Do not know which players were involved in the incident but needless to say it is not good. Interesting read here guys on new coach as per what Skemack was talking about!! Hopefully he got it all put behind him. Blues special teams were excellent under Montgomery. www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/34175601/boston-bruins-expected-bring-jim-montgomery-new-head-coach-sources-say
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Post by fforr on Jun 30, 2022 22:39:21 GMT -5
Out of curiosity why? I was never impressed with him when he was a head coach of Dallas. Just curious as to why you think he is better hire then Jay Leach or Dan Quinn? Best pick/fit of the 3 for this veteran team. No experience for Leach and Quinn more of the rock star for me. Think we’ll be more physical.
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Post by skemack on Jun 30, 2022 23:09:26 GMT -5
Interestingly both of those players are from the 2018 Canada Junior team that is the subject of a major investigation here in Canada and the team responsible for an incident that so far has had federal government funding of the entire program temporarily terminated. Sponsors are pulling sponsorship of the world junior tournament now as well. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships_rostersOther interesting names from that team that is now under fire: Cale Makar, Carter Hart, Drake Batherson, Alex Formentin, Tyler Raddish, Jake Bean, and Dante Fabbro. Do not know which players were involved in the incident but needless to say it is not good. Interesting read here guys on new coach as per what Skemack was talking about!! Hopefully he got it all put behind him. Blues special teams were excellent under Montgomery. www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/34175601/boston-bruins-expected-bring-jim-montgomery-new-head-coach-sources-saySorry that read was for the players that did well for Montgomery. He did not have anything to do with the 2018 Canadian Junior team. Hopefully Montgomery will do well with the youth in Boston and get them to play better for Boston.
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Post by kjc2 on Jul 1, 2022 8:23:03 GMT -5
Montgomery sounds like a good choice, probably best case scenario from the list that was out there.
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Post by nfld77 on Jul 1, 2022 8:36:19 GMT -5
Montgomery sounds like a good choice, probably best case scenario from the list that was out there.Just curious to know if there was someone else you preferred?? Obviously DS steered away from coaches with any amount of experience..I must admit I know little of Montgomery only for what I read past few hours..
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