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Post by madmarx on Apr 26, 2024 9:55:04 GMT -5
There is one active player who played in the playoffs for the Sabres who is he ? Okposo? Good guess no playoffs
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Post by crafar01 on Apr 26, 2024 9:56:10 GMT -5
Crap...I figured he'd been there so long that he had have gotten in at least once. I had forgotten he got traded until you posed that question.
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Post by madmarx on Apr 26, 2024 10:01:38 GMT -5
Crap...I figured he'd been there so long that he had have gotten in at least once. I had forgotten he got traded until you posed that question. You have to way back to 2010-2011 for the Sabres he was with the Islanders then
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Post by crafar01 on Apr 26, 2024 10:30:00 GMT -5
Crap...I figured he'd been there so long that he had have gotten in at least once. I had forgotten he got traded until you posed that question. You have to way back to 2010-2011 for the Sabres he was with the Islanders then I should have cheated and looked.
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Post by crafar01 on Apr 26, 2024 10:31:46 GMT -5
My second guess was Reinhart, but he's in FLA too. You said a Canadian team, yeah?
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Post by madmarx on Apr 26, 2024 10:32:48 GMT -5
You have to way back to 2010-2011 for the Sabres he was with the Islanders then I should have cheated and looked. He plays D for a Canadian team in the Playoffs
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Post by crafar01 on Apr 26, 2024 10:34:14 GMT -5
I should have cheated and looked. He plays D for a Canadian team in the Playoffs I give, my memory is worse than I thought.
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Post by orym on Apr 26, 2024 10:36:27 GMT -5
He plays D for a Canadian team in the Playoffs I give, my memory is worse than I thought. Tyler Myers!
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Post by crafar01 on Apr 26, 2024 10:41:44 GMT -5
I give, my memory is worse than I thought. Tyler Myers! That's gotta be right.
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Post by madmarx on Apr 26, 2024 10:48:26 GMT -5
I give, my memory is worse than I thought. Tyler Myers! Yeah when I heard that this morning crazy, Sabres have had a really tough ride for a long time.
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Post by orym on Apr 26, 2024 10:52:20 GMT -5
Yeah when I heard that this morning crazy, Sabres have had a really tough ride for a long time. I totally forgot about him as a Sabre. Remember him more as a Jet and now Canuck.
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Post by nfld77 on Apr 26, 2024 12:42:45 GMT -5
Damn just about to say Myers..true story, maybe...
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Post by madmarx on Apr 26, 2024 15:01:47 GMT -5
Yeah when I heard that this morning crazy, Sabres have had a really tough ride for a long time. I totally forgot about him as a Sabre. Remember him more as a Jet and now Canuck. Someone posted x Sabre Player’s playing in the Playoffs right now on different teams it was insane. Really bad management. I should have posted it .
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Post by madmarx on Apr 26, 2024 15:05:18 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Apr 27, 2024 13:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Apr 27, 2024 17:56:13 GMT -5
That is tough. I am going to go with Crosby Lidstrom Messier Richard
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Post by madmarx on Apr 29, 2024 23:01:22 GMT -5
Since 1982 only four goalies that have won the Vezina and the Cup who are they?
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Post by orym on Apr 30, 2024 0:11:57 GMT -5
Since 1982 only four goalies that have won the Vezina and the Cup who are they? I'll take the easy one. Tim Thomas in 2011!
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Post by madmarx on Apr 30, 2024 6:46:44 GMT -5
Since 1982 only four goalies that have won the Vezina and the Cup who are they? I'll take the easy one. Tim Thomas in 2011! ✅
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Post by madmarx on Apr 30, 2024 7:24:00 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Apr 30, 2024 7:43:15 GMT -5
TORONTO — Colin Campbell remembers his days as an NHL coach in the 1980s and ’90s. While the league’s presence was felt at playoff games, there wasn’t any kind of planned interaction during a series with teams.
Especially when it came to the hot topic of officiating.
“I know they had guys watching games back then, but they didn’t have someone you dealt with every day,” Campbell told The Athletic over the weekend.
When Campbell joined the NHL head office in the late 1990s, that changed.
“We started doing it, with having someone at every series. We formalized it,” the NHL’s senior executive vice president said.
The idea from that day forward was to have someone present at each playoff series for each round who can act as an information buffer between referees and clubs, which, well, certainly can get heated at times.
But even to this day, there’s not much known about series supervisors and what exactly they do.
“It all depends on what the GM and coach want regarding how it goes during the series,” Campbell said. “If you don’t want us to talk to you, we’re not going to talk to you. We’re just available.”
And in checking around the NHL this weekend, it turns out it really does vary how teams approach their dealings with the series supervisor and what they get from those conversations.
The first-round series supervisors are:
Kay Whitmore, Tampa Bay Lightning–Florida Panthers Bill McCreary, Boston Bruins–Toronto Maple Leafs Rob Schick, New York Rangers–Washington Capitals Dan O’Halloran, Carolina Hurricanes–New York Islanders Don Van Massenhoven, Dallas Stars–Vegas Golden Knights Shane Heyer, Colorado Avalanche–Winnipeg Jets Brad Watson, Vancouver Canucks–Nashville Predators Rod Pasma, Edmonton Oilers–Los Angeles Kings Some teams have the coach deal with the supervisor, other teams have the general manager. Most clubs, however, decide to involve both.
“It’s a mix of both for us,” Avalanche head coach Jared Bednar said Saturday via text message. “Usually for us, it’s just a quick conversation to make sure nothing is going on that we need to know about. If we have any complaints that are repeated, we can voice those concerns. Sometimes, as a series goes on, we may have some things that we want to bring up, but usually it’s pretty basic if the officials have been pretty good.”
Stars GM Jim Nill said he and head coach Peter DeBoer meet with their series supervisor, Don Van Massenhoven.
“The purpose of the meetings is to discuss different circumstances/situations that either team may feel the other team is attempting to/or gaining an edge that is crossing the line for a competitive advantage,” Nill said Saturday via text message. “Is it faceoffs … is it line changes … is it scrums after the whistle, etc. … The supervisor is the eyes and ears of the series, with no bias on the wins or losses. … A neutral voice for both teams and has a good feel for the temperature of the series.”
Golden Knights head coach Bruce Cassidy said he and GM Kelly McCrimmon also take those supervisor meetings together.
“The meetings are fairly general in scope,” Cassidy said Saturday via text message. “Revisit any incidents from the previous game … raise awareness of types of infractions that are happening … i.e. faceoff interference, D getting cross-checked by their forwards in net-front battles. Scrums after whistles are usually brought up by the supervisor once the series gets more heated.”
Canucks head coach Rick Tocchet said Saturday that he and GM Patrik Allvin both meet with their series supervisor, Watson.
“The communication has been terrific,” Tocchet said via text message. “Brad is excellent on how he explains things and how he handles teams’ concerns. All positive for me.”
Barry Trotz took in those supervisor meetings for many years as a coach. Now he’s doing it as Preds GM along with his head coach, Andrew Brunette.
“We just talk about trends — calls that happen — as well as opponents’ tactics,” Trotz said via text message Saturday. “It’s communication that helps us understand what they are looking for.”
Bruins head coach Jim Montgomery and GM Don Sweeney also do those supervisor meetings together.
“It’s a collaborative effort. Donnie and I talk and we both talk with the supervisor,” Montgomery said Saturday morning at his pregame media availability. “And for us, I think the league does a great job. It’s good to hear feedback from the supervisors. And that’s what we look to. Like what are the directives they’re telling their team (on-ice officials) so that I can tell my team how to react and how to comport themselves appropriately so that we’re listening to the supervisor and that we know what he wants to accomplish and what’s going to be called. And we tell our players to behave appropriately.”
Whether or not the name “Brad Marchand” comes up in those meetings, who knows.
Most teams meet with their series supervisor on the morning of game days, although that also can vary, and in fact, it has been a little more random that way in the Bruins-Leafs series, where former referee McCreary is the supervisor. He’s been a series supervisor for 13 years now — ever since retiring from refereeing. Having an experienced hand like McCreary on a series pitting two bitter rivals is no coincidence. The league’s hockey ops, led by Campbell, decide those series supervisor assignments.
Leafs head coach Sheldon Keefe revealed Saturday that he’s chosen not to be part of those meetings but rather prefers GM Brad Treliving to handle them.
“First of all every supervisor has a different style,” Keefe said Saturday morning at his media availability. “Some are proactive and want to come in and check in and make sure you’ve got nothing; others are, ‘Hey, here’s my number. If you want to communicate, reach out, no problem.’ And each style has been good. I’ve found that just because of the time of year and it’s emotional and you’ve got so much going on, I just allow the general managers to handle it.
“They have a pretty good sense of what’s on our mind and if we need some support through video of something we’ve got questions about, we make sure they have it. But that’s the way it’s worked here in this series. Tree has done that.”
Like Treliving, Hurricanes GM Don Waddell handles his series supervisor meetings (with the former referee O’Halloran), he said Saturday.
“Before the series, the supervisor goes through the standards and then he is available every day if you have questions or concerns,” Waddell said via text message. “This series (has) been played hard but all within the rules.”
For a first-time NHL head coach like the Oilers’ Kris Knoblauch, those meetings with series supervisor Pasma have been “beneficial.” He’s taking those meetings along with veteran Oilers GM Ken Holland.
But the idea of attempting any gamesmanship in those meetings, that’s not realistic, Knoblauch said.
“You can complain about calls and lay the groundwork, but ultimately it’s got to go through a lot of players,” Knoblauch said last week. “I’ve got to communicate that to the supervisor. He throws that to the game officials for that night. And it probably has very little effect. I think it’s more the communication from Rod to myself telling me what they’re looking for and I can communicate that to my players. As for the gamesmanship, yeah I would like to say I can influence them to call more holding calls (on the Kings) on McDavid, but ultimately it’s usually on deaf ears.”
Kings coach Jim Hiller does his supervisor meetings with GM Rob Blake.
“It’s pretty casual. You get a chance to see what (Pasma) thought in some situations, and then he gets our perspective,” Hiller said. “It just clears the air for everyone.”
Hiller is a first-time NHL head coach but actually had been in supervisor meetings previously. And like Knoblauch, he doesn’t see the point in trying to sway officials via those meetings.
“I’ve been in some of those meetings as an assistant before at different times in my career,” he said. “So I’ve seen different perspectives. These guys are professionals. They’ve been through those types of situations where people are trying to gain advantage. I don’t think you’re trying to gain an advantage on anybody. I think they’re just good, mature hockey conversations. What I’ve enjoyed is that you get the perspective from the officials, they get our perspective, and surprisingly enough a lot of times you meet in the middle.”
The supervisors travel as the series shifts cities. They are there whenever the clubs need to meet. The other important part of their job is meeting with referees and linesmen, who rotate from series to series. Supervisors fill them in on what’s been happening in the series — what the temperature of it is, the issues each club has raised in meetings, etc. That gives the refs a sense going in of what to look for that night in the game.
(The Athletic asked to speak with a series supervisor but a league spokesperson said Colin Campbell speaks on these matters.)
And finally, series supervisors are leaned on by NHL player safety head George Parros if an incident occurs needing review or potential discipline. Parros wants to hear from the supervisor who was in the rink when the incident happened and the circumstances in the game or series overall that help explain how things escalated.
In the end, while there are still head coaches who will voice their displeasure and try to sway the officiating via comments in the media between games, the reality is that clubs have long recognized that establishing a courteous flow of communication with series supervisors is more beneficial.
Well, mostly courteous.
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Post by orym on Apr 30, 2024 9:45:24 GMT -5
I'll take the easy one. Tim Thomas in 2011! ✅ Being that you said 1982 as the starting point, I'd figure Billy Smith is in there as well with the Isles. I'd guess Brodeur as well but can't recall what years exactly he won the Vezina and the Cup so that might be off.
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Post by madmarx on Apr 30, 2024 9:52:22 GMT -5
Being that you said 1982 as the starting point, I'd figure Billy Smith is in there as well with the Isles. I'd guess Brodeur as well but can't recall what years exactly he won the Vezina and the Cup so that might be off. Those are both good 👍
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Post by KSJ08 on Apr 30, 2024 11:45:57 GMT -5
Being that you said 1982 as the starting point, I'd figure Billy Smith is in there as well with the Isles. I'd guess Brodeur as well but can't recall what years exactly he won the Vezina and the Cup so that might be off. Those are both good 👍 Patrick Roy & 2 Cup winner for wings, can't rememebr his name. No one thought he was that good BUT won 2 cup??🤷♂️🏒
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Post by madmarx on Apr 30, 2024 12:17:57 GMT -5
First Goalie of Colour is a clue
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Post by madmarx on Apr 30, 2024 12:18:12 GMT -5
Patrick Roy & 2 Cup winner for wings, can't rememebr his name. No one thought he was that good BUT won 2 cup??🤷♂️🏒 👎
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Post by KSJ08 on Apr 30, 2024 12:27:13 GMT -5
First Goalie of Colour is a clue Grant Furhe & Not Osgood?
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Post by madmarx on Apr 30, 2024 12:36:12 GMT -5
First Goalie of Colour is a clue Grant Furhe & Not Osgood? Grant Fuhr Tim Thomas Brodeur Billy Smith Were the four Goalies to win the Vezina and Cup same year
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Post by RascalHoudi on May 1, 2024 11:49:56 GMT -5
Since 1982 only four goalies that have won the Vezina and the Cup who are they? I'll take the easy one. Tim Thomas in 2011! That's the only one that counts!
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Post by orym on May 1, 2024 11:52:08 GMT -5
I'll take the easy one. Tim Thomas in 2011! That's the only one that counts! It was easily the first thing that came to mind! Vezina, Conn Smythe and Cup all in the same year! One of the greatest seasons by a goaltender in history in my opinion!
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