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Post by SeaBass on Jan 4, 2012 16:02:58 GMT -5
I dunno Peejay, I think I believe the kid. I honestly think he wants to stay a Bruin. But if he goes long stretches, especially the last quarter of the season where games are important, he'll get pissed. Then its the playoffs{All TT} and then you try to resign Rask. He gotta play his fair amount down the stretch, hopefully important games where management proves they trust him. That should go a long way in keeping him here!! At least he is still a RFA so if some bonehead offers him the moon we could get some good picks in return.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 4, 2012 18:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by KSJ08 on Jan 6, 2012 16:56:37 GMT -5
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Post by eddy on Jan 7, 2012 7:37:40 GMT -5
I dunno Peejay, I think I believe the kid. I honestly think he wants to stay a Bruin. But if he goes long stretches, especially the last quarter of the season where games are important, he'll get pissed. Then its the playoffs{All TT} and then you try to resign Rask. He gotta play his fair amount down the stretch, hopefully important games where management proves they trust him. That should go a long way in keeping him here!! Tubular not stupid, he's going to inherit a Stanley cup calibre team in a couple of years.
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Post by fforr on Jan 7, 2012 9:27:11 GMT -5
Glad to see Tuukka has grown up some. He realized that his poor play from last year was due to the pressure he was putting on himself and not to mention the Bruins poor play when he started. Think he's truthful when he says he wants to stay as do alot of guys in the room and potential UFAs in the future. Other side of the coin is how TT sees the picture. He's gotta see a young lights out goalie who is the future of the organization and who is ready now. He knows it's a business and a longterm contract from the Bruins point of veiw is unlikely. Think there is some NMC language that changes in the last year of his contract. Hope so anyway. If there is maybe an agreeable solution can be reached in the off season.
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Post by Peejay on Jan 7, 2012 9:39:48 GMT -5
Glad to see Tuukka has grown up some. He realized that his poor play from last year was due to the pressure he was putting on himself and not to mention the Bruins poor play when he started. Think he's truthful when he says he wants to stay as do alot of guys in the room and potential UFAs in the future. Other side of the coin is how TT sees the picture. He's gotta see a young lights out goalie who is the future of the organization and who is ready now. He knows it's a business and a longterm contract from the Bruins point of veiw is unlikely. Think there is some NMC language that changes in the last year of his contract. Hope so anyway. If there is maybe an agreeable solution can be reached in the off season. TT's NMC is gone after this season. He could go to the highest bidder, but I don't see PC ever being that cold.
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Post by fforr on Jan 7, 2012 12:42:12 GMT -5
Glad to see Tuukka has grown up some. He realized that his poor play from last year was due to the pressure he was putting on himself and not to mention the Bruins poor play when he started. Think he's truthful when he says he wants to stay as do alot of guys in the room and potential UFAs in the future. Other side of the coin is how TT sees the picture. He's gotta see a young lights out goalie who is the future of the organization and who is ready now. He knows it's a business and a longterm contract from the Bruins point of veiw is unlikely. Think there is some NMC language that changes in the last year of his contract. Hope so anyway. If there is maybe an agreeable solution can be reached in the off season. TT's NMC is gone after this season. He could go to the highest bidder, but I don't see PC ever being that cold. He better be, otherwise one of the best goalies in the league walks away for nothing. I could see TT oking a team he would go to(DET) who would then extend him a couple of years or so.
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Post by sanderson16 on Jan 7, 2012 12:53:59 GMT -5
TT's NMC is gone after this season. He could go to the highest bidder, but I don't see PC ever being that cold. He better be, otherwise one of the best goalies in the league walks away for nothing. I could see TT oking a team he would go to(DET) who would then extend him a couple of years or so. Thomas has enough money for him and the next few generations. He seem loyal and if he retires a Bruin he'll never have to pay for a beer or a meal again in New England. The succession plans in place, the new crease CEO will take over and he'll mentor him as chairman for a couple seasons until he sails off with Charlie Moore looking more productive fishing holes.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 7, 2012 16:15:22 GMT -5
He better be, otherwise one of the best goalies in the league walks away for nothing. I could see TT oking a team he would go to(DET) who would then extend him a couple of years or so. Thomas has enough money for him and the next few generations. He seem loyal and if he retires a Bruin he'll never have to pay for a beer or a meal again in New England. The succession plans in place, the new crease CEO will take over and he'll mentor him as chairman for a couple seasons until he sails off with Charlie Moore looking more productive fishing holes. How can you read into the future like that ..#Kreskin..
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Post by madmarx on Jan 9, 2012 17:41:34 GMT -5
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Post by Ye Olde Winesock on Jan 10, 2012 16:10:43 GMT -5
I've been looking for an article that explains how the Vancouver Canucks organization and fan base became so high and mighty when they haven't really won a damn thing in their relatively short franchise history.
Their strongest claims to hockey fame were: those hideous yellow jerseys / trading away HOF Cam Neely and burning their own city down after Game 7 in 2011.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 10, 2012 16:34:19 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 11, 2012 9:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by HockeyNightinDixie on Jan 11, 2012 9:35:33 GMT -5
I really love that the Vancouver writer concedes 1) the Canucks have pests (like most teams) and 2) the Canucks are NOT tough. I think that shows WHY so many teams dislike them... they pester and then hide behind refs instead of being men and answering the call. And why I love Boston is that they are tough, but not goons. Everyone including our "enforcer" Thornton can score... see his penalty shot last night. The reason we have been so dominant in the 3rd period this season is that Julien is so comfortable playing the 4th line.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 11, 2012 20:45:42 GMT -5
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Post by KSJ08 on Jan 11, 2012 23:19:03 GMT -5
2 Nucks not 1 Bruin :-) Not sure Vinny Lecav belongs on the list
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Post by offwego on Jan 12, 2012 5:39:27 GMT -5
2 Nucks not 1 Bruin :-) Not sure Vinny Lecav belongs on the list Iggy either, feel bad for him, he should pull a Bourque and get the hell out of Dodge...sorry I mean Calgary...
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 12, 2012 6:37:08 GMT -5
Interesting story on the Bruin Blueprint. www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bruins+could+force+other+teams+toughen/5981492/story.htmlMy thoughts are, if all other teams want to ramp up their toughness to match the Bruins where does the league stand on this future? My guess is that they will screw us every chance they get and rob us of a fair opportunity of winning the cup a second time. I'm not talking about blatant cheating, I'm taking about having a double standard on penalty calls. I think we're already starting to take notice, you could call it getting burned on reputation but if the league doesn't like our style of play and they fear other teams will follow suit, the NHL might already be proactive in discouraging this model of success.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 12, 2012 7:11:27 GMT -5
I don't think much of this list, a few people deserve to be there (Luongo screams a #1 selection IMO) Ovechkin is having a so so year but that doesn't make him overrated. Iggy and Pronger were two of the better players in the league but everybody gets old, does that make them overrated? Phaneuf overrated- Yes, Gomez-yes, Bouwmeester-yes, Kesler-yes (mostly because I hate him) Komisarek- never been any good so I don’t think he is overrated (over paid yes). Lecavalier can be the best when he feels like playing but he mostly just does enough to get bye.
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Post by bruinsnorth on Jan 12, 2012 10:03:30 GMT -5
Interesting story on the Bruin Blueprint. www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bruins+could+force+other+teams+toughen/5981492/story.htmlMy thoughts are, if all other teams want to ramp up their toughness to match the Bruins where does the league stand on this future? My guess is that they will screw us every chance they get and rob us of a fair opportunity of winning the cup a second time. I'm not talking about blatant cheating, I'm taking about having a double standard on penalty calls. I think we're already starting to take notice, you could call it getting burned on reputation but if the league doesn't like our style of play and they fear other teams will follow suit, the NHL might already be proactive in discouraging this model of success. That article is just another whiny journalistic piece from the Vancouver Province. They can't believe that their Presidents winning team got beat by the Bruins last year. They make it sound like the Bruins are only winning because of their goon tactics. If thats all it took then PC could go out and fill out his roster with 22 Shawn Thorntons and that should be enough to get the job done. Of our forwards only Looch, Horton and Thornton are what you would call tough SOBS but they can also play hockey too. I am so sick of the whining going on out there.
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Post by bruinsnorth on Jan 12, 2012 10:05:10 GMT -5
This looks more like an over paid list than a over-rated list. I guess they kinda go hand in hand. In a few years when Z starts to go downhill he will be on that list too.
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Post by Ye Olde Winesock on Jan 12, 2012 10:07:03 GMT -5
Interesting story on the Bruin Blueprint. www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bruins+could+force+other+teams+toughen/5981492/story.htmlMy thoughts are, if all other teams want to ramp up their toughness to match the Bruins where does the league stand on this future? My guess is that they will screw us every chance they get and rob us of a fair opportunity of winning the cup a second time. I'm not talking about blatant cheating, I'm taking about having a double standard on penalty calls. I think we're already starting to take notice, you could call it getting burned on reputation but if the league doesn't like our style of play and they fear other teams will follow suit, the NHL might already be proactive in discouraging this model of success. That article is just another whiny journalistic piece from the Vancouver Province. They can't believe that their Presidents winning team got beat by the Bruins last year. They make it sound like the Bruins are only winning because of their goon tactics. If thats all it took then PC could go out and fill out his roster with 22 Shawn Thorntons and that should be enough to get the job done. Of our forwards only Looch, Horton and Thornton are what you would call tough SOBS but they can also play hockey too. I am so sick of the whining going on out there. Jealous. Montreal fans to this day still call Neely a dirty player/thug. Same thing with O'Reily.
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Post by eddy on Jan 12, 2012 10:12:55 GMT -5
Interesting story on the Bruin Blueprint. www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Bruins+could+force+other+teams+toughen/5981492/story.htmlMy thoughts are, if all other teams want to ramp up their toughness to match the Bruins where does the league stand on this future? My guess is that they will screw us every chance they get and rob us of a fair opportunity of winning the cup a second time. I'm not talking about blatant cheating, I'm taking about having a double standard on penalty calls. I think we're already starting to take notice, you could call it getting burned on reputation but if the league doesn't like our style of play and they fear other teams will follow suit, the NHL might already be proactive in discouraging this model of success. That article is just another whiny journalistic piece from the Vancouver Province. They can't believe that their Presidents winning team got beat by the Bruins last year. They make it sound like the Bruins are only winning because of their goon tactics. If thats all it took then PC could go out and fill out his roster with 22 Shawn Thorntons and that should be enough to get the job done. Of our forwards only Looch, Horton and Thornton are what you would call tough SOBS but they can also play hockey too. I am so sick of the whining going on out there. Well said. The Mike Komisarek aside was laughable. If that's the writer's definition of a 'tough guy', he's totally out to lunch. The Bruins won because they hit, they dug, and they wanted it more than Vancouver - a team that was willing to believe the hype the Canadian media said about them. Luongo is God (who needs his tires pumped). Kesler is as good as Messier (he wasn't even as good as Bergeron). The Sedin twins are unstoppable (except when they're punching bags). Teams up 2-0 almost always win the cup (except when they don't). They lost sight of the fact that they had to win 4 times.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Jan 12, 2012 10:23:24 GMT -5
tony gallager = tool fool not cool
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Post by Ye Olde Winesock on Jan 12, 2012 10:39:35 GMT -5
How, why, where, when, what did the name Komisarek appear out of the blue on this story?? The guy is barely hanging on to a spot on the Leafs blueline.
Gallagher must still be smarting from the Thornton interview ambush. And the Montreal Gazette can't seem to pick up enough stories out of Vancouver.
i think the vancouver - montreal media pipeline is trying to set the Bruins up as the team the league (and refs) need to clamp down on before hockey takes a timewarp back to 1978.
As for the Bruins - getting big players who can score, hit and fight like Lucic and Horton was a fortunate happensstance for the Bruins supported by some strong scouting. Throw a freak like Chara in the mix along with Thornton / feisty middlewight Campbell / McQuaid and suddenly you have a big, bad team with a big, bad rep.
For another org. to try and copy the Bruins blueprint would require a fair amount of luck, among lots of other things. You can't just get big guys who can fight. Big guys with soft hands are very hard to find.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Jan 12, 2012 10:46:05 GMT -5
tony gallager- "you out weigh him by 40lbs."
what the hell would that have to do with anything anyway?
if weiss is the "tough" guy, what does weight matter"
"i dont understand why the canucks are hated"
is this guy for real?
what a tool.
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Post by HockeyNightinDixie on Jan 12, 2012 11:31:31 GMT -5
To: Tony Gallagher 1) Bruins do not lead the league in fights (NYR) or PIM (Philadelphia) 2) Bruins DO lead the league in GF/GP and GA/GP (1)+(2)=hardly a goon squad
3) Shawn Thornton is listed at 217, Weise at 210. 7 lbs difference, NOT 40
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Post by Ye Olde Winesock on Jan 12, 2012 11:37:34 GMT -5
To: Tony Gallagher 1) Bruins do not lead the league in fights (NYR) or PIM (Philadelphia) 2) Bruins DO lead the league in GF/GP and GA/GP (1)+(2)=hardly a goon squad 3) Shawn Thornton is listed at 217, Weise at 210. 7 lbs difference, NOT 40 Other than the weight, Gallagher knows the other stats but won't admit to readers or to himself. BTW - where did you get that mini clip of Subban falling down?
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Post by cjlang on Jan 12, 2012 12:07:27 GMT -5
That article is just another whiny journalistic piece from the Vancouver Province. They can't believe that their Presidents winning team got beat by the Bruins last year. They make it sound like the Bruins are only winning because of their goon tactics. If thats all it took then PC could go out and fill out his roster with 22 Shawn Thorntons and that should be enough to get the job done. Of our forwards only Looch, Horton and Thornton are what you would call tough SOBS but they can also play hockey too. I am so sick of the whining going on out there. Well said. The Mike Komisarek aside was laughable. If that's the writer's definition of a 'tough guy', he's totally out to lunch. The Bruins won because they hit, they dug, and they wanted it more than Vancouver - a team that was willing to believe the hype the Canadian media said about them. Luongo is God (who needs his tires pumped). Kesler is as good as Messier (he wasn't even as good as Bergeron). The Sedin twins are unstoppable (except when they're punching bags). Teams up 2-0 almost always win the cup (except when they don't). They lost sight of the fact that they had to win 4 times. Komisarek is a pussycat non-factor since Lucic exposed him for the fraud he really is.
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Post by eddy on Jan 12, 2012 12:45:02 GMT -5
To: Tony Gallagher 1) Bruins do not lead the league in fights (NYR) or PIM (Philadelphia) 2) Bruins DO lead the league in GF/GP and GA/GP (1)+(2)=hardly a goon squad 3) Shawn Thornton is listed at 217, Weise at 210. 7 lbs difference, NOT 40 The other way of wording it is-teams with a +70 goal differential after 39 games don't get that by playing goons and you don't end up with 4 of the top 5 +/- spots by not being able to play hockey. He should just face it. The Canucks are a good team that can get physically outworked in a 7 game series. Chicago did it to them in 2009, 2010, almost did it in 2011 before the Bruins did.
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