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Post by fforr on Nov 5, 2022 17:10:27 GMT -5
Bettman has stepped in and said the league was not consulted and he is not eligible to play in the nhl now or in the future at this point. OMG😲 I actually agree W/Something Buttman said!!! Was thinking the same thing b
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 5, 2022 19:22:01 GMT -5
Bettman has stepped in and said the league was not consulted and he is not eligible to play in the nhl now or in the future at this point. Which also means he can’t play in the AHL.
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Post by kjc2 on Nov 6, 2022 10:00:08 GMT -5
Bettman has stepped in and said the league was not consulted and he is not eligible to play in the nhl now or in the future at this point. I find it difficult to believe that Sweeney didn’t reach out to the league first, like him or not he is an intelligent guy. I suspect he asked Gary, Gary said yes but if things blow up he’s going to reverse it. Works for the league because they didn’t “know” and gives Sweeney an easy out. I’m okay with second chances but I don’t like that it messed with the locker room so I’m glad it’s over and done with. Also just from a hockey standpoint I’m with KSJ, who needs another five foot fuck all defensemen?
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Post by fforr on Nov 6, 2022 13:07:59 GMT -5
Bettman has stepped in and said the league was not consulted and he is not eligible to play in the nhl now or in the future at this point. I find it difficult to believe that Sweeney didn’t reach out to the league first, like him or not he is an intelligent guy. I suspect he asked Gary, Gary said yes but if things blow up he’s going to reverse it. Works for the league because they didn’t “know” and gives Sweeney an easy out. I’m okay with second chances but I don’t like that it messed with the locker room so I’m glad it’s over and done with. Also just from a hockey standpoint I’m with KSJ, who needs another five foot fuck all defensemen? Here’s my best Columbo. Don is smart but Gary is smarter and would never put the league in that position. He was never consulted. Miller was convicted with his cohort in juvenile court in 2016. Four years later the league with most of all the same info available deems him eligible for the draft. Read where the Yotes had this same feel good, 2nd chance reclamation project in mind but upon hearing some more unsettling details decide to cut bait and bail. Would think that an actual ineligibility list with Miller’s name on it doesn’t even exist. Enter the smartest guy in the room and the talk of the league in the early going. He gets wind that the only other team with interest is closing in on His USHL undersized offensive defenseman. Has to act fast. Concocts this 2week inter organizational Kumbaya workshop, falls back on his dad’s educational experience on suspending school kids and personally picks him up at the airport. Puts pen to paper. A side note barring mutual agreement the PA might want a say in things and the CEO of one of their biggest sponsors Rapid 7 is black and has a son with a disability. A fine mess indeed.
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Post by nfld77 on Nov 6, 2022 15:38:54 GMT -5
Bettman has stepped in and said the league was not consulted and he is not eligible to play in the nhl now or in the future at this point. I find it difficult to believe that Sweeney didn’t reach out to the league first, like him or not he is an intelligent guy. I suspect he asked Gary, Gary said yes but if things blow up he’s going to reverse it. Works for the league because they didn’t “know” and gives Sweeney an easy out. I’m okay with second chances but I don’t like that it messed with the locker room so I’m glad it’s over and done with. Also just from a hockey standpoint I’m with KSJ, who needs another five foot fuck all defensemen? KJC, I'm a little behind..WHY did Sweeney sign him in the 1st place?? Yea we all know he's a Harvard Graduate so why would he go throiugh all this trouble without consulting NHL??
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Post by kjc2 on Nov 6, 2022 21:09:20 GMT -5
I find it difficult to believe that Sweeney didn’t reach out to the league first, like him or not he is an intelligent guy. I suspect he asked Gary, Gary said yes but if things blow up he’s going to reverse it. Works for the league because they didn’t “know” and gives Sweeney an easy out. I’m okay with second chances but I don’t like that it messed with the locker room so I’m glad it’s over and done with. Also just from a hockey standpoint I’m with KSJ, who needs another five foot fuck all defensemen? KJC, I'm a little behind..WHY did Sweeney sign him in the 1st place?? Yea we all know he's a Harvard Graduate so why would he go throiugh all this trouble without consulting NHL?? I don’t know why Sweeney needed to sign Miller, he was an okay prospect from a hockey standpoint, maybe he thought that enough time had passed that people wouldn’t be outraged over giving him a second chance. Either way Gary swooped in to save the day. I didn’t see anything about Gary being involved when the Yotes rescinded their draft pick a couple of years ago. I just think Gary let Bruins sign the kid to gage the backlash and save the day if needed. More importantly to me he got our GM off the hook so he doesn’t have to stand in front of everyone and apologize until he’s blue in the face. I just hope it’s over and done with.
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Post by nfld77 on Nov 6, 2022 21:13:52 GMT -5
KJC, I'm a little behind..WHY did Sweeney sign him in the 1st place?? Yea we all know he's a Harvard Graduate so why would he go throiugh all this trouble without consulting NHL?? I don’t know why Sweeney needed to sign Miller, he was an okay prospect from a hockey standpoint, maybe he thought that enough time had passed that people wouldn’t be outraged over giving him a second chance. Either way Gary swooped in to save the day. I didn’t see anything about Gary being involved when the Yotes rescinded their draft pick a couple of years ago. I just think Gary let Bruins sign the kid to gage the backlash and save the day if needed. More importantly to me he got our GM off the hook so he doesn’t have to stand in front of everyone and apologize until he’s blue in the face. I just hope it’s over and done with. So the ELC Miller signed isnt legit, he's no longer in the Bruins organisation?? Thanks so much for you previous answer but like you, I really hope this is the end of it..SO much respect in B's dressing room and alot of pride in wearing the Bruins colors, fan or player!! Thanks buddie!!
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Post by skemack on Nov 6, 2022 21:41:40 GMT -5
What a shit show that dumb and dumber have created for the Bruins. Way to take away from a historically good start and add fuel for the Bruins haters..ahem all canadian media especially.
I am all for second chances but this whole situation could not be handled in a more unprofessional and mickey mouse manner.
Jeremy Jacobs frankly should step in and turf both Neely and Sweeney for the PR Black eye.
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Post by nfld77 on Nov 6, 2022 23:26:26 GMT -5
www.nhl.com/bruins/news/bruins-issue-update-on-mitchell-miller/c-337296694?fbclid=IwAR0hdHCd5oQWlPij58VVO9igCOr_h55kHzv83mHt9rTg2jLAHarGxyjW5dEBOSTON - Bruins President Cam Neely announced today, November 6, that the Boston Bruins will part ways with Mitchell Miller. Statement from Bruins President Cam Neely: "Today the Boston Bruins have decided to part ways with Mitchell Miller, effective immediately. The decision to sign this young man was made after careful consideration of the facts as we were aware of them: that at 14-years-old he made a poor decision that led to a juvenile conviction. We understood this to be an isolated incident and that he had taken meaningful action to reform and was committed to ongoing personal development. Based on that understanding we offered him a contract. Based on new information, we believe it is the best decision at this time to rescind the opportunity for Mitchell Miller to represent the Boston Bruins. We hope that he continues to work with professionals and programs to further his education and personal growth. We owe it to our fans, players, staff, partners and community to make sure that our practices and protocols are in keeping with the ethos that we demand from ourselves and as an organization. As such, we will be reevaluating our internal processes for vetting individuals who wish to earn the privilege of playing in the National Hockey League for the Boston Bruins. We are sorry that this decision has overshadowed the incredible work the members of our organization do to support diversity and inclusion efforts. We will continue to stand against bullying and racism in all of its forms. To Isaiah and his family, my deepest apologies if this signing made you and other victims feel unseen and unheard. We apologize for the deep hurt and impact we have caused. Finally, as a father, I think there is a lesson to be learned here for other young people. Be mindful of careless behaviors and going with the group mentality of hurting others. The repercussions can be felt for a lifetime." As a Bruins fan, I'm just very happy this is over and by the way DS was hesitant ever since this signing, as if he didnt like it, I personally believe Neely is the culprit behind all this unnessasary foolishness for sake of a better word..The whole fiasco was handled very unbruin like, unprofessional to say the least!!
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Post by skemack on Nov 7, 2022 8:17:13 GMT -5
The TSN Ottawa radio guys were discussing this situation this morning and they indicated that DS was very uneasy and even almost squeamish about this signing. From what they have found out so far this was either decided by Neely or even Charlie, however, I can not see Charlie having much useful say on player signings.
I believe this was all on Cam Neely and frankly he needs to be fired ASAP for this.
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 7, 2022 10:00:04 GMT -5
Calling it his biggest regret as a Bruins executive, team president Cam Neely said the franchise made significant mistakes in the vetting and signing of Mitchell Miller. Chief among them: “We didn’t talk to the family,” Neely said, referring to Isaiah Meyer-Crothers, the Black developmentally disabled classmate Miller bullied for several years. Neely said it was a failing of the Bruins’ hockey operations department that it did not discover the extent of Miller’s abhorrent abuse of Meyer-Crothers. They believed, Neely said, that Miller had made a singular mistake when he was 14, and had done work to better himself. Neely was light on specifics about that work.
“From everything I’ve heard, he was working on himself, working in programs to better himself,” Neely said of the “new information” the team cited when cutting ties with Miller. “I was under the impression it was a 14-year-old kid who made a really, really bad decision and did some horrible things, and he’s 20 years old now, so I was under the impression that he, in the last six years, had done a lot of work on himself.”
Why would the Bruins sign Miller when they’re the hottest team in the league?
“The timing was never going to be good,” Neely said. “It got down to are we doing it or not, and we made the wrong decision.”
Neely offered up another apology.
”We dropped the ball, and I’m here to apologize for that.”
Here are some takeaways from Neely’s press conference.
Cam Neely: It’s ‘concerning’ team did not talk to victim’s family Neely said it was “concerning” the Bruins did not talk to the family of Miller’s victim.
Why didn’t they? “It’s a great question.”
He also said it was a failure as part of the vetting process.
Neely apologized to Isaiah Meyer-Crouthers in his statement on Sunday night, and said he would be reaching out to the family.
Neely also said he was under the impression that Miller would need to speak directly to commissioner Gary Bettman in order to be cleared to play in the NHL.
What’s the message to Bruins fans? “I’m extremely upset that we have made a lot of people unhappy with our decision,” Neely said. “I take pride in the Bruins organization and what we stand for and we failed there.”
On the timeline On Friday, Bruins general manager Don Sweeney said that they had been working with Miller for six months.
Neely said that the possibility of the team signing Miller “was brought to my attention in early August.
“... We said if we’re going to do this, we want to make sure he’s in the right programs and understands the values that we have with diversity and inclusion.”
Key quotes from Neely On second chances: “I do believe in second chances but maybe some don’t deserve it. I’m not saying it in that case, but I do believe in second chances.”
On what changed between Friday night and Sunday night: “We didn’t have enough information, we could have dug deeper.”
Did the Bruins move quickly on signing Miller because there was interest from other teams? “I didn’t care about other teams.”
Does he feel duped? “Yeah, it’s best I not get into that.”
On why Neely signed off on the signing: “It was a decision we didn’t take lightly, I felt that based on everything I knew, he deserved a second chance.”
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 7, 2022 10:14:55 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Nov 7, 2022 10:33:26 GMT -5
Why wouldn’t Bettman have an official list? If you can’t sign a player into the NHL every team should be made aware it. Like I said before, Arizona cut ties with the kid after the draft but I didn’t hear the NHL chime in and say he was banned from the league. It would save a lot of potential embarrassing moments for 32 teams if they had some sort of protocol from the league.
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 7, 2022 11:17:05 GMT -5
Why wouldn’t Bettman have an official list? If you can’t sign a player into the NHL every team should be made aware it. Like I said before, Arizona cut ties with the kid after the draft but I didn’t hear the NHL chime in and say he was banned from the league. It would save a lot of potential embarrassing moments for 32 teams if they had some sort of protocol from the league. There is so much to this whole mess. Bettman said he knew nothing about it. The Bruins had to go through the NHL to sign him and they obviously approved it. So how does he not know. Neely looked like a complete idiot during the press conference today. It wa obvious that he was coached by the lawyers as most of his answers didnt really answer anything. I would like to just get back to hockey
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Post by skemack on Nov 7, 2022 11:29:01 GMT -5
Anyone know what happened to Michael Dipietro? Is he hurt or where is he actually playing?
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 7, 2022 11:43:28 GMT -5
Anyone know what happened to Michael Dipietro? Is he hurt or where is he actually playing? Believe he is still playing for the Canucks AHl or ECHL team on loan.
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Post by kjc2 on Nov 7, 2022 12:35:34 GMT -5
Why wouldn’t Bettman have an official list? If you can’t sign a player into the NHL every team should be made aware it. Like I said before, Arizona cut ties with the kid after the draft but I didn’t hear the NHL chime in and say he was banned from the league. It would save a lot of potential embarrassing moments for 32 teams if they had some sort of protocol from the league. There is so much to this whole mess. Bettman said he knew nothing about it. The Bruins had to go through the NHL to sign him and they obviously approved it. So how does he not know. Neely looked like a complete idiot during the press conference today. It wa obvious that he was coached by the lawyers as most of his answers didnt really answer anything. I would like to just get back to hockey Agreed, back to hockey but I want to say one more thing to your point. Gary Bettman is Teflon man, he keeps arms length so nothing sticks to him. He didn’t know about the BlackHawks mess either until ten years later. Yeah right. I’m happy Neely said that Sweeney consulted with Bill Daily. Also some speculation that Sweeney might take a bullet here because Neely is the guy talking now and not Sweeney. I hope nobody in Bruins organization gets fired. Not that I’m a big fan of any of them but it just adds to the embarrassment of this mess. Back to hockey. Go Bruins!
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 7, 2022 13:54:33 GMT -5
There is so much to this whole mess. Bettman said he knew nothing about it. The Bruins had to go through the NHL to sign him and they obviously approved it. So how does he not know. Neely looked like a complete idiot during the press conference today. It wa obvious that he was coached by the lawyers as most of his answers didnt really answer anything. I would like to just get back to hockey Agreed, back to hockey but I want to say one more thing to your point. Gary Bettman is Teflon man, he keeps arms length so nothing sticks to him. He didn’t know about the BlackHawks mess either until ten years later. Yeah right. I’m happy Neely said that Sweeney consulted with Bill Daily. Also some speculation that Sweeney might take a bullet here because Neely is the guy talking now and not Sweeney. I hope nobody in Bruins organization gets fired. Not that I’m a big fan of any of them but it just adds to the embarrassment of this mess. Back to hockey. Go Bruins! He absolutely knew. My favorite part is that all the Bruins had to do was use Google..or better yet...Hey Siri. Tell me about Mitchell. They obviously did very little research on this whole situation.
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Post by nfld77 on Nov 7, 2022 14:49:15 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 7, 2022 15:00:13 GMT -5
Glad I can keep you alive
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Post by madmarx on Nov 7, 2022 15:46:18 GMT -5
Like others have I wouldn’t fire Sweeney and Neely today but both should be replaced in the off season, enough stupidity already .
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Post by nfld77 on Nov 7, 2022 17:07:20 GMT -5
Glad I can keep you alive And you do a great job at that..Lol, Wife thanks you!!
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Post by KSJ08 on Nov 7, 2022 17:34:15 GMT -5
Still don't understand the signing in the 1st place??? Ok Back to Bruins Hockey Let's Go Bruins 👏👏👏
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Post by bruinsnorth on Nov 8, 2022 10:33:26 GMT -5
Like others have I wouldn’t fire Sweeney and Neely today but both should be replaced in the off season, enough stupidity already . After Bobby, Cam was always my favourite Bruin. But after all of this he and the entire management team looks bad. The very first step in all of this should have been reaching out to the victims family. The current culture inside that organization seems to be from the influence of guys like Chara and Bergy. I think they would be a good management team once Bergy is retired. Maybe next year.
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Post by nfld77 on Nov 8, 2022 12:03:35 GMT -5
Still don't understand the signing in the 1st place??? Ok Back to Bruins Hockey Let's Go Bruins 👏👏👏 Totally, back to Bruins hockey..Great to get back on their winnoing ways last night..Ulmark was terrific again and with Swayman injured, where would we be without him.. Last season I was among the ones who didnt like the Ullmark signing and man was I wrong!! Right now he's a bargain at 5 a season!! Leading league with 9 wins, next to him is Martin Jones among others with 6 wins
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Post by SeaBass on Nov 9, 2022 9:10:57 GMT -5
Anyone know what happened to Michael Dipietro? Is he hurt or where is he actually playing? Believe he is still playing for the Canucks AHl or ECHL team on loan. No longer on the Canucks team. Sounds like he is headed to Maine or Providence now. Keyser and Swayman out probably facilitated this move.
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Post by RascalHoudi on Nov 9, 2022 22:13:10 GMT -5
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Post by crafar01 on Nov 10, 2022 7:26:46 GMT -5
As good as we look right now, the first sentence of that article is wholly depressing, but nothing any of us here didn't already know I suppose.
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Post by skemack on Nov 10, 2022 10:09:38 GMT -5
The Mitchell Miller saga is not apparently over as from the TSN legal analyst here in Ottawa has indicated that the Bruins can not actually recind the contract offer and it will either be on the books for the full three years or the Bruins will have to do a buy out next off season.
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Post by skemack on Nov 10, 2022 10:10:27 GMT -5
As good as we look right now, the first sentence of that article is wholly depressing, but nothing any of us here didn't already know I suppose. We all know it I am just already tired of every media outlet highlighting that. Really is like pouring iodine over an open wound.
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