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Post by kjc2 on Sept 28, 2017 13:58:59 GMT -5
So many lists out there and they all have their different parameters to justify the rankings. I know McDavid is the new face of the league but if the playoffs were to start tomorrow I'd rather go to war with Crosby than any other center on that list. Also my second choice would probably be Bergeron. I'd take Toews next and he didn't even rank I don't think. Guys like McDavid, Scheifele and Barkov will win awards and have their time but the vets know how to bring it when it counts. yeah. i dont know about barkov. Barkov was just a random guy off that list but if Barkov can stay healthy and his linemates can stay healthy (Huberdeau) I think Barkov will be a huge force in the league.
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Post by bostonfanwest on Sept 28, 2017 15:12:35 GMT -5
Just read this now. I think they pegged Bergeron about right and gave him his due props. I don't think Eric and Jordan Staal or Wennberg should be on the list. Barkov, Backstrom and Malkin are a touch too high for me. Underrated: ROR, Scheifle, Stamkos, Kopitar.
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Post by bostonfanwest on Sept 28, 2017 15:42:41 GMT -5
The frustrating part is that this whole issue was starting to run out of steam and would have probably just run itβs course if the Tweeter in Chief doesnβt start running his mouth again. Bang on. There was no reason for him get involved and incite so much more controversy.
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Post by nfld77 on Sept 28, 2017 17:01:28 GMT -5
yeah. i dont know about barkov. Barkov was just a random guy off that list but if Barkov can stay healthy and his linemates can stay healthy (Huberdeau) I think Barkov will be a huge force in the league. I agree Barkov's time is just about due but right now, there's no way I put him ahead of Bergeron. In fact there's not many I would put ahead of him. Crosby, thats about it. Now if we're just talking about goals/offence, thats another story. But when it comes to an overall player 200ft guy, no one is better than Bergy and no jokes about him being 200 feet tall, lol..
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Post by madmarx on Sept 28, 2017 18:06:26 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Sept 28, 2017 21:03:02 GMT -5
That first concussion delivered by Gary Suter I think was brutal, Karyia wasn't the same after that one.
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Post by bostonfanwest on Sept 28, 2017 23:11:48 GMT -5
I remember when I joined Twitter to follow Hockey media and get a ton of interesting articles, now every second tweet is about politics that's not what I signed up for .. Sports for Me is an escape from the real world for a few hours I look forward too , I hate when politics get dragged into sports and the sports media get involved.. As much as I am not a fan of Sindy, or the Penguins, they are getting lambasted over their decision to go to the White House. Funny how one side, or the other seems to forget about how these things ALWAYS cut both ways in any situation. I've said before I think the whole professional sports teams going to the White House to get glad handed for being paid to win a championship is a joke at best and a fucking embarrassment at worst. But just like when TT decided not to go in 2011 (and all the other athletes from other sports who decided not to go over the years and all mostly for political reasons), the Penguins can go if they want. I couldn't give a rat's ass and to be honest, it wouldn't shock me in the least if they cave because of all the flack they're getting and decide to bail on the visit after all. I'm a bit surprised that Crosby and the Pens are getting flak to. Nobody in the NHL to date has kneeled at the anthem, Trump didn't go after any hockey player. Really there is no reason to think they would boycott.
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Post by bostonfanwest on Sept 29, 2017 1:03:11 GMT -5
DID ANYONE READ THIS?? I cannot believe there's no comments on it..Look where they have Bergeron listed in the top 23 Centremen. And you'll be stunned at some of the names that made it. BUT it was done the right way by going back 3 years on most players. Connor made the list although he only played 2 years..There's a write up on all 23 players. Bergeron and Krejci made the cut and when I seen where they were positioned, I just COULD NOT BELIEVE it was written by CANADA'S OWN SPORTSNET. And all Canadian media just love to hate the Bruins and make us look like the bad guys!! Gotta read this people!!! Bergy always kills it in the advanced stats. The Selke has the reputation of being a reputation award but when you go to the advanced stats they also say he is the best defensive forward in the game; whether you use the eye test or the math test. Interesting, but I can't totally go with this article which rates 100% based on stats. They give you good info but are not the be all end all.
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Post by kjc2 on Sept 29, 2017 7:35:10 GMT -5
DID ANYONE READ THIS?? I cannot believe there's no comments on it..Look where they have Bergeron listed in the top 23 Centremen. And you'll be stunned at some of the names that made it. BUT it was done the right way by going back 3 years on most players. Connor made the list although he only played 2 years..There's a write up on all 23 players. Bergeron and Krejci made the cut and when I seen where they were positioned, I just COULD NOT BELIEVE it was written by CANADA'S OWN SPORTSNET. And all Canadian media just love to hate the Bruins and make us look like the bad guys!! Gotta read this people!!! Bergy always kills it in the advanced stats. The Selke has the reputation of being a reputation award but when you go to the advanced stats they also say he is the best defensive forward in the game; whether you use the eye test or the math test. Interesting, but I can't totally go with this article which rates 100% based on stats. They give you good info but are not the be all end all. Totally agree, stats are a great tool but when you look at the numbers you have to ask why. You have to drill down on all the variables on what made the numbers what they are(good or bad). Bergeron stands up under any microscope, he plays a near flawless game, he doesn't cheat and he plays to his strengths. Last year he had a sports hernia and you could tell he was hurt early on but he figured out how to play effectively with it while most of us just thought he was back to healthy. The guy is amazing.
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Post by madmarx on Sept 29, 2017 7:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by fforr on Sept 29, 2017 10:25:15 GMT -5
Itβs Hard to put into words how fortunate we have been to watch his whole career.
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Post by nfld77 on Sept 29, 2017 10:52:22 GMT -5
Bergie is one of those players that dont come along very often and HOW we grabbed him in the 2nd round is so hard to believe. HOW did so many players go before him?? Maybe cause he's not the type to advertise himself. He'll always give the credit to someone else..So being so humble just may of hurt him at the draft. Does that even make sense??
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Post by offwego on Sept 29, 2017 11:00:21 GMT -5
to bad he plays for Montreal. I might almost like him and hope for the best for him....
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Post by KSJ08 on Sept 29, 2017 12:01:42 GMT -5
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Post by bostonfanwest on Sept 29, 2017 12:05:34 GMT -5
Bergie is one of those players that dont come along very often and HOW we grabbed him in the 2nd round is so hard to believe. HOW did so many players go before him?? Maybe cause he's not the type to advertise himself. He'll always give the credit to someone else..So being so humble just may of hurt him at the draft. Does that even make sense?? I have wondered this to NFLD, it is hard to believe in hindsight. I think scouts look a lot for physical tools and they just thought he wasn't really that big and he wasn't that fast. From day 1 he proved that scouts really underestimated him. Played so smart and did everything right even as an 18 year old; making the team as an 18 year old second round pick is almost unheard of.
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Post by madmarx on Sept 29, 2017 12:40:29 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Sept 29, 2017 17:10:51 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Sept 29, 2017 17:20:36 GMT -5
The nose should have been enough but as soon as I saw the headline I knew Brad was #1 and just like Bergeron he can stand up to the most stringent scrutiny. Not sure I can argue Krieder or Huberdeau over Ovechkin though.
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Post by madmarx on Sept 29, 2017 19:01:20 GMT -5
The nose should have been enough but as soon as I saw the headline I knew Brad was #1 and just like Bergeron he can stand up to the most stringent scrutiny. Not sure I can argue Krieder or Huberdeau over Ovechkin though. Agree Ovie should be ahead of those two ..
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Post by madmarx on Oct 1, 2017 9:22:52 GMT -5
NJ agrees to terms with forward Jimmy Hayes, who was at camp on PTO. One year deal, $700K.
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Post by kjc2 on Oct 1, 2017 9:26:55 GMT -5
NJ agrees to terms with forward Jimmy Hayes, who was at camp on PTO. One year deal, $700K. Good luck to him. We're paying him approximately the same for the next two years.lol
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Post by DonnyBrook on Oct 1, 2017 10:03:21 GMT -5
was watching b's replay...they broke away from game to report that dave strader has passed...sad...just after making a return. another great voice.
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Post by nfld77 on Oct 1, 2017 10:13:43 GMT -5
Dallas's play-by-play announcer..Very sad to hear that.
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Post by nfld77 on Oct 1, 2017 17:03:35 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Oct 2, 2017 8:01:15 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Oct 2, 2017 8:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by crafar01 on Oct 2, 2017 8:35:04 GMT -5
Pretty damn nuts that Hasek maintained that average over that many games.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Oct 2, 2017 9:01:25 GMT -5
those numbers are so weird to me...especially when i consider that the hockey news and other hockey people picked the bruins to miss the playoffs.
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Post by madmarx on Oct 3, 2017 15:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Oct 3, 2017 16:10:26 GMT -5
I remember him at the WJC, he was a great combination of grit and skill. While we got Hamil that year they got Voracek 1st round and Legein 2nd round, a homerun on both I was thinking at the time.
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