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Post by madmarx on Jan 20, 2019 14:01:18 GMT -5
Does this team look the same after the bye week or will there be changes??
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Post by fforr on Jan 20, 2019 15:10:41 GMT -5
Does this team look the same after the bye week or will there be changes?? Well I guess it is possible we could have a new GM...
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 20, 2019 15:11:37 GMT -5
Does this team look the same after the bye week or will there be changes?? I'm nervous about changes, not sure if I trust them to make the right changes. There's no doubt we're looking like an average though, we need help but it has to be well thought out. Last year Rick Nash was a bad idea. I'm not saying that in hindsight, he's never been a big time playoff guy, not sure why Sweeney thought last year would be different. He's a big player that skates well but never played big.
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Post by orym on Jan 20, 2019 15:56:21 GMT -5
Does this team look the same after the bye week or will there be changes?? I'm nervous about changes, not sure if I trust them to make the right changes. There's no doubt we're looking like an average though, we need help but it has to be well thought out. Last year Rick Nash was a bad idea. I'm not saying that in hindsight, he's never been a big time playoff guy, not sure why Sweeney thought last year would be different. He's a big player that skates well but never played big. Nash was having another below average season offensively as well and to think he would flip a switch and be the old Nash was a bit of a stretch. Nash was an elite player but was working on his third consecutive so-so season when we grabbed him. I like that it was aggressive but can any of us really be surprised it didn't pay off? Add some depth and tweak things a little. Don't blow the farm on some overrated has been or rental player this year.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 20, 2019 17:24:36 GMT -5
Add some depth and tweak things a little. Don't blow the farm on some overrated has been or rental player this year.
This not sure I want to lose Lauzon or Fredric amongst others in the pipeline for a fantasy chance at the Cup ..
I would like to see some of our prospects on the Big team soon ..
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 20, 2019 18:41:39 GMT -5
Does this team look the same after the bye week or will there be changes?? Well I guess it is possible we could have a new GM... Damn, I certainly hope not. I realize we all want a move made, but there's very few of them happening, very few and far between and every team wants something. Problem is, it takes two to tangle and you need the right one to tangle with. Only my opinion but I really like Sweeney and hid vision for the team, what this team did last season and where they're headed. Rookies of last season, some are in sophomore slumps but cant blame anyone for that. Bruins are playing poorly of late but to be a single point behind the Mighty Leafs after enduring the injuries this team went through, that means alot and I think in time, things will come together and we'll be a better team for it..
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 20, 2019 18:47:52 GMT -5
Add some depth and tweak things a little. Don't blow the farm on some overrated has been or rental player this year. This not sure I want to lose Lauzon or Fredric amongst others in the pipeline for a fantasy chance at the Cup .. I would like to see some of our prospects on the Big team soon .. I'm with you and Ory on this one UNLESS a good deal comes along for Schenn, Tarasenko or Panirin..They're still young players but Krug and his 5,5 salary HAS to go other way for it to work, just for starters..Except for Schenn cause I think his contract is up this season and same with Panirin..Have to be a sign and trade..
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Post by fforr on Jan 20, 2019 21:06:47 GMT -5
Well I guess it is possible we could have a new GM... Damn, I certainly hope not. I realize we all want a move made, but there's very few of them happening, very few and far between and every team wants something. Problem is, it takes two to tangle and you need the right one to tangle with. Only my opinion but I really like Sweeney and hid vision for the team, what this team did last season and where they're headed. Rookies of last season, some are in sophomore slumps but cant blame anyone for that. Bruins are playing poorly of late but to be a single point behind the Mighty Leafs after enduring the injuries this team went through, that means alot and I think in time, things will come together and we'll be a better team for it.. That reply was just an attempt at some tongue in cheek humor Newf. However think DS should have addressed the 2rw and or 3c by now and it’s close to put up or shut up time for some of these high picks.
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 20, 2019 22:56:06 GMT -5
Damn, I certainly hope not. I realize we all want a move made, but there's very few of them happening, very few and far between and every team wants something. Problem is, it takes two to tangle and you need the right one to tangle with. Only my opinion but I really like Sweeney and hid vision for the team, what this team did last season and where they're headed. Rookies of last season, some are in sophomore slumps but cant blame anyone for that. Bruins are playing poorly of late but to be a single point behind the Mighty Leafs after enduring the injuries this team went through, that means alot and I think in time, things will come together and we'll be a better team for it.. That reply was just an attempt at some tongue in cheek humor Newf. However think DS should have addressed the 2rw and or 3c by now and it’s close to put up or shut up time for some of these high picks. Please dont take any offense from my reply as it's just the way I feel about Donny. BUT, in saying that Florr, it is just as frustrating for me waiting and waiting for something to happen to improve our team. I'm really hoping Celerik is the real deal. I'd like for him to be the surprise of the season, do similar to what DeBrusk did last season. He has the size and seems to have skill..So far so good on that line. Peter being from Slovakia and Krejci from Czech Republic, speak same language as it was once just Czechoslovakia, so that might even help a little. If Celerik wants it bad enough, he'll work his ass off to stay where he is cause he should realize he got one helluva opportunity. STILL, once the season began and Sweeney knew what we needed, you would think something would have came together. Nino Niederreiter was just traded for Victor Rask, 2 quality players that might of done well here but we dont know, maybe Sweeney tried for both and price wasnt right. I wonder could the problem be Donny overrating our core of prospects..Both of us know the value of Senyshen and Zboril {both drafted 1st rd same yr with DeBrusk}.. Lauzon stock should have risen as he really look nhl ready while he was up with Bruins, same goes for Connor Clifton BUT they only get you so much. Is he still kicking tires and wondering what to do with Krug?? I think he's the guy that could bring back the most stock..And I think after a few game, McAvoy and/or Grz would be fine on PP One.. It's fine to wait awhile and see how Celerik pans out BUT we still need a 3rd line centre. Come on Donny, TEN DAYS!!! Get something done..
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 21, 2019 10:55:00 GMT -5
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Post by skemack on Jan 21, 2019 11:39:51 GMT -5
Add some depth and tweak things a little. Don't blow the farm on some overrated has been or rental player this year. This not sure I want to lose Lauzon or Fredric amongst others in the pipeline for a fantasy chance at the Cup .. I would like to see some of our prospects on the Big team soon .. This. I would not even attempt a trade for a second line RW at this point until the team has a clearer idea of how long Rask will be. If he is done for a long period of time then the teams chances I feel are done too. Halak has been garbage since Dec 1 and there is no way the team will go anywhere with him as the starter. Lauzon, Frederic, Studnicka, Shen, and Lauko are prospects that should not be traded for anyone. No more Nash type rentals, maybe Brayden Schenn as he is signed beyond this season but I do not see St. Louis even trading him anymore as long as they are still in the playoff race. Deadline is still a bit off so I would hold the fort and get the team back to playing 200 foot hockey again.
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 21, 2019 13:59:11 GMT -5
Add some depth and tweak things a little. Don't blow the farm on some overrated has been or rental player this year. This not sure I want to lose Lauzon or Fredric amongst others in the pipeline for a fantasy chance at the Cup .. I would like to see some of our prospects on the Big team soon .. This. I would not even attempt a trade for a second line RW at this point until the team has a clearer idea of how long Rask will be. If he is done for a long period of time then the teams chances I feel are done too. Halak has been garbage since Dec 1 and there is no way the team will go anywhere with him as the starter. Lauzon, Frederic, Studnicka, Shen, and Lauko are prospects that should not be traded for anyone. No more Nash type rentals, maybe Brayden Schenn as he is signed beyond this season but I do not see St. Louis even trading him anymore as long as they are still in the playoff race. Deadline is still a bit off so I would hold the fort and get the team back to playing 200 foot hockey again. Yea since Oct-Nov, Halak hasn't play anywhere close since then BUT he's been far from garbage and I think if we did up his stats since, he would still be above average. Halak played his best when he was playing the majority of games. That's expected as he was never a real back up, maybe back in his black days in Montreal. I think if the situation arises that he has to take over the #1 job, I think his numbers would be closer to what they were early in the season BUT let's hope Tuukku is fine. There's no reason to believe the 10 day layoff wont be sufficient enough..
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Post by orym on Jan 21, 2019 15:20:29 GMT -5
This. I would not even attempt a trade for a second line RW at this point until the team has a clearer idea of how long Rask will be. If he is done for a long period of time then the teams chances I feel are done too. Halak has been garbage since Dec 1 and there is no way the team will go anywhere with him as the starter. Lauzon, Frederic, Studnicka, Shen, and Lauko are prospects that should not be traded for anyone. No more Nash type rentals, maybe Brayden Schenn as he is signed beyond this season but I do not see St. Louis even trading him anymore as long as they are still in the playoff race. Deadline is still a bit off so I would hold the fort and get the team back to playing 200 foot hockey again. Yea since Oct-Nov, Halak hasn't play anywhere close since then BUT he's been far from garbage and I think if we did up his stats since, he would still be above average. Halak played his best when he was playing the majority of games. That's expected as he was never a real back up, maybe back in his black days in Montreal. I think if the situation arises that he has to take over the #1 job, I think his numbers would be closer to what they were early in the season BUT let's hope Tuukku is fine. There's no reason to believe the 10 day layoff wont be sufficient enough.. Every time I think a concussion won't be that bad, it ends up taking way longer for the player to return so I am not going to pass any judgement on Tuukka's and jinx it! I hope you are right brother!
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 21, 2019 19:33:32 GMT -5
I'd be good with Shopping Krug for some help up front. I think we need to usher in some new blood next year on LD and we have plenty of them so no time like the present to start that process.
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Post by crafar01 on Jan 22, 2019 7:26:37 GMT -5
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Post by orym on Jan 22, 2019 11:51:36 GMT -5
I would have fired him after the Taylor Hall trade.
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Post by skemack on Jan 22, 2019 12:51:26 GMT -5
I would have fired him after the Taylor Hall trade. I would have not even hired him as he was terrible as the GM of the Bruins. Please do not give the stanley cup win as the core of the team was put in place by previous management.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 22, 2019 14:48:28 GMT -5
I would have fired him after the Taylor Hall trade. I would have not even hired him as he was terrible as the GM of the Bruins. Please do not give the stanley cup win as the core of the team was put in place by previous management. It's okay to have your opinions on Chiarelli and he'll most likely be fired soon but you can't have your own facts, to say the core of our Stanley cup was in place is just wrong. 2007 draft Kessel(Seguin), Lucic and Marchand. He signed Marc Savard, Ryder, Shawn Thornton and Chara. He traded for Johnny Boychuk, he traded for Denis Seidenberg, traded for Adam Mcquaid, traded for Andrew Ference, Thomas Kaberle Traded to acquire Recchi. Traded to acquire Horton. He traded for Peverley, Kelly, Greg Campbell, Daniel Paille. I also give credit to Chiarelli for extending Tim Thomas to a 4 year deal when a lot of us (including myself) wanted him punted out the door to make way for Rask. So Bergeron and Krejci were the only core in place. Everything he's touched with the Oilers has absolutely turned to crap. I liked what he was trying to do but the game changed in the middle of his build.
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Post by skemack on Jan 22, 2019 16:29:48 GMT -5
I would have not even hired him as he was terrible as the GM of the Bruins. Please do not give the stanley cup win as the core of the team was put in place by previous management. It's okay to have your opinions on Chiarelli and he'll most likely be fired soon but you can't have your own facts, to say the core of our Stanley cup was in place is just wrong. 2007 draft Kessel(Seguin), Lucic and Marchand. He signed Marc Savard, Ryder, Shawn Thornton and Chara. He traded for Johnny Boychuk, he traded for Denis Seidenberg, traded for Adam Mcquaid, traded for Andrew Ference, Thomas Kaberle Traded to acquire Recchi. Traded to acquire Horton. He traded for Peverley, Kelly, Greg Campbell, Daniel Paille. I also give credit to Chiarelli for extending Tim Thomas to a 4 year deal when a lot of us (including myself) wanted him punted out the door to make way for Rask. So Bergeron and Krejci were the only core in place. Everything he's touched with the Oilers has absolutely turned to crap. I liked what he was trying to do but the game changed in the middle of his build. You are wrong about some of your facts. Chiarelli did not draft kessel, marchand, or lucic rather that was actually Jeff Gorton still. Similarly it was Gorton that signed both Chara and Savard. Chara signing may have been influenced by Chiarelli coming to Boston but he technically did not sign him. edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/is-jeff-gorton-the-man-who-stole-rask-from-toronto-a-good-g-m-candidateWhile he made some good moves early on he was an absolute and still is a moron at contract negotiations. For the few good moves he made at the beginning he can not execute a trade worthwhile at all anymore and I would argue that almost every trade after the cup was a loss for this team...and now Edmonton.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 22, 2019 18:50:00 GMT -5
Bruins won a Cup under GM who is being roasted out west and probably rightfully so , but that won’t ruin My enjoyment of the Bruins celebrating a very long spell between Cups .. Some very special moments were spent with family and friends that Summer ..
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 22, 2019 20:02:41 GMT -5
It's okay to have your opinions on Chiarelli and he'll most likely be fired soon but you can't have your own facts, to say the core of our Stanley cup was in place is just wrong. 2007 draft Kessel(Seguin), Lucic and Marchand. He signed Marc Savard, Ryder, Shawn Thornton and Chara. He traded for Johnny Boychuk, he traded for Denis Seidenberg, traded for Adam Mcquaid, traded for Andrew Ference, Thomas Kaberle Traded to acquire Recchi. Traded to acquire Horton. He traded for Peverley, Kelly, Greg Campbell, Daniel Paille. I also give credit to Chiarelli for extending Tim Thomas to a 4 year deal when a lot of us (including myself) wanted him punted out the door to make way for Rask. So Bergeron and Krejci were the only core in place. Everything he's touched with the Oilers has absolutely turned to crap. I liked what he was trying to do but the game changed in the middle of his build. You are wrong about some of your facts. Chiarelli did not draft kessel, marchand, or lucic rather that was actually Jeff Gorton still. Similarly it was Gorton that signed both Chara and Savard. Chara signing may have been influenced by Chiarelli coming to Boston but he technically did not sign him. edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/is-jeff-gorton-the-man-who-stole-rask-from-toronto-a-good-g-m-candidateWhile he made some good moves early on he was an absolute and still is a moron at contract negotiations. For the few good moves he made at the beginning he can not execute a trade worthwhile at all anymore and I would argue that almost every trade after the cup was a loss for this team...and now Edmonton. There has been plenty of debate on who was actually in charge during the draft. Chiarelli was named in May, the Bruins were nailed for tampering I believe so he wasn't allowed to conduct any business as gm until I think second week of July. He was just a phone call away. Either way it's semantics, whether he got lucky I don't know but he built the cup winner in 2011 and finalist in 2013.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 22, 2019 20:09:58 GMT -5
Bruins won a Cup under GM who is being roasted out west and probably rightfully so , but that won’t ruin My enjoyment of the Bruins celebrating a very long spell between Cups .. Some very special moments were spent with family and friends that Summer .. Agreed, it was a great year to be a Bruins fan and it still is. We were good in 2011 but we weren't a favorite by any stretch and I think that's what made it even better.
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Post by KSJ08 on Jan 22, 2019 20:38:58 GMT -5
I would have not even hired him as he was terrible as the GM of the Bruins. Please do not give the stanley cup win as the core of the team was put in place by previous management. It's okay to have your opinions on Chiarelli and he'll most likely be fired soon but you can't have your own facts, to say the core of our Stanley cup was in place is just wrong. 2007 draft Kessel(Seguin), Lucic and Marchand. He signed Marc Savard, Ryder, Shawn Thornton and Chara. He traded for Johnny Boychuk, he traded for Denis Seidenberg, traded for Adam Mcquaid, traded for Andrew Ference, Thomas Kaberle Traded to acquire Recchi. Traded to acquire Horton. He traded for Peverley, Kelly, Greg Campbell, Daniel Paille. I also give credit to Chiarelli for extending Tim Thomas to a 4 year deal when a lot of us (including myself) wanted him punted out the door to make way for Rask. So Bergeron and Krejci were the only core in place. Everything he's touched with the Oilers has absolutely turned to crap. I liked what he was trying to do but the game changed in the middle of his build. Touche & %100 BUT with his record AFTERWARDS!! Glad he's LONG gone!!!! Thanks PC for the Cup BUT ..........
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Post by madmarx on Jan 23, 2019 5:05:13 GMT -5
Oilers fire Chia
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Post by DonnyBrook on Jan 23, 2019 5:39:15 GMT -5
you beat me to it...spot on reporting... shocking..
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 23, 2019 5:43:06 GMT -5
You got to win games and have success or you're done. The Oilers are in such a hole it's going to take awhile to climb out.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 23, 2019 6:21:20 GMT -5
You got to win games and have success or you're done. The Oilers are in such a hole it's going to take awhile to climb out. Not sure how you fix that mess anytime soon..
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Post by DonnyBrook on Jan 23, 2019 7:06:10 GMT -5
mcjesus was a bit upset. they were talking about it on NHL now. trying to figure out if he was saying they dont have the talent or if they need to play a certain way.
chia screwed this team up..i like how he signs a pretty much unknown goalie to that deal and is fired a few days later. thanks pete. how to screw us walking out the door.
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 23, 2019 7:31:54 GMT -5
Funny how that was the talk here on the board yesterday.. Yep, no big surprise I guess..
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 23, 2019 7:40:15 GMT -5
It's tough to comprehend, Whether it's us Bruin fans, or Habs and Leaf fans, precisely how close our team is to not even making playoffs.. Leafs Have 60 points while Bruins and Habs are just a single point behind with 59 points, which means Bruins and Habs are 1 point out of 2nd place. BUT they're also just 1 point up on the final playoff position. Pittsburgh has 58 points. Buffalo, which seemed like yesterday was in 2nd place are 9th with 54 points. So right now there's no guarentee's for any playoffs just yet for above mentioned teams. Funny how we all think our team is doing fine and then all of a sudden, BAM!!
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