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Post by nfld77 on Jan 25, 2019 16:12:05 GMT -5
At least it looks like he puts the effort in though. I haven't been watching a lot of games recently, but from what I did watch, Pasta was back checking, he likes to fly the zone, which seems to be a new trend in the NHL. From my sports experience, some people just can't figure out defense. I was one of those. If I was the last guy back in soccer, I'd trip the guy so he'd get a free kick, but my team was back in position. I played for a dozen years or so and could never figure out how to play defense. We all probably could have been good defensemen in the sports we played but we all wanted to go score goals instead For me. I was always goalie playng floor hockey and a forward playing ice hockey. I could play either wing or center even though I'm a southpaw. Yet I play guitar right handed and when I played softball, I had to catch AND throw with left hand. So funny, I would play outfield, catch a pop up, take my glove off and then throw ball in while player was tagging up at 2ND and crossing home plate!!.
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Post by KSJ08 on Jan 26, 2019 10:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by DonnyBrook on Jan 26, 2019 17:59:52 GMT -5
can someone tell me why the sharks fans cheered when AM has a marleau shirt but its the leafs..why didnt he have one for sharks?
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Post by orym on Jan 26, 2019 21:40:34 GMT -5
can someone tell me why the sharks fans cheered when AM has a marleau shirt but its the leafs..why didnt he have one for sharks? Can you wear another team's shirt? Bruins gear only on our boys
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Post by KSJ08 on Jan 27, 2019 9:43:07 GMT -5
can someone tell me why the sharks fans cheered when AM has a marleau shirt but its the leafs..why didnt he have one for sharks? Because they're Bay area fans NOT true Hockey fans! Have no clue/loyalty!! Oh yeah also Cali. liberals.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 27, 2019 10:01:04 GMT -5
I'm glad whatever that was is over, lets get some real hockey back....Bruins Hockey!
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 27, 2019 18:02:42 GMT -5
I'm glad whatever that was is over, lets get some real hockey back....Bruins Hockey! I never watched game, never do. How did Pasta play??
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 27, 2019 20:16:41 GMT -5
I'm glad whatever that was is over, lets get some real hockey back....Bruins Hockey! I never watched game, never do. How did Pasta play?? I watched 5 minutes of the final game, central vs metro so I didn't even see Pasta. It was wide open, slow and boring with a lot of over passing but they seem to think it's entertaining for some reason. All Star game should be just after training camp a few days before opening day of the season. All-stars as voted the previous year against the Stanley Cup champions, 5 on 5, a real hockey game. It should be in front of the champions home crowd, banner should be raised, the cup should be on hand and it should be a celebration of the most important thing in hockey. Plus if the Cup was won on the road this would be extra special. It'd be a great way to kick off every season. The players have their 10 days off now at the half way mark of the season, the current format just sucks the momentum out of the season IMO.
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 27, 2019 21:20:00 GMT -5
I never watched game, never do. How did Pasta play?? I watched 5 minutes of the final game, central vs metro so I didn't even see Pasta. It was wide open, slow and boring with a lot of over passing but they seem to think it's entertaining for some reason. All Star game should be just after training camp a few days before opening day of the season. All-stars as voted the previous year against the Stanley Cup champions, 5 on 5, a real hockey game. It should be in front of the champions home crowd, banner should be raised, the cup should be on hand and it should be a celebration of the most important thing in hockey. Plus if the Cup was won on the road this would be extra special. It'd be a great way to kick off every season. The players have their 10 days off now at the half way mark of the season, the current format just sucks the momentum out of the season IMO. Kjc, your idea is SO MUCH BETTER than what they're doing now. It's a bunch more reasoning behind your idea. Playing the previous Cup champs in their barn would be a far more entertaining game, especially for the fans of the champs, but also for everyone else. PLUS, one thing that makes your idea so much better that you forgot to mention. It's the beginning of the hockey season and fans like us are starving for hockey so we would all be looking forward to the game. Absolutely love your idea. Wish there was some way to get this to the NHL Board.. Oh, I checked the boxscore and Pastrnak had 2 assists.
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 28, 2019 8:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 28, 2019 8:54:33 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 28, 2019 8:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by Losing my mind on Jan 28, 2019 9:01:32 GMT -5
I never watched game, never do. How did Pasta play?? I watched 5 minutes of the final game, central vs metro so I didn't even see Pasta. It was wide open, slow and boring with a lot of over passing but they seem to think it's entertaining for some reason. All Star game should be just after training camp a few days before opening day of the season. All-stars as voted the previous year against the Stanley Cup champions, 5 on 5, a real hockey game. It should be in front of the champions home crowd, banner should be raised, the cup should be on hand and it should be a celebration of the most important thing in hockey. Plus if the Cup was won on the road this would be extra special. It'd be a great way to kick off every season. The players have their 10 days off now at the half way mark of the season, the current format just sucks the momentum out of the season IMO. That's a great idea. I'd like to add that any players that get traded/sign somewhere else, go back to their Stanley Cup team for this game.
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 28, 2019 10:44:56 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 28, 2019 11:00:16 GMT -5
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 28, 2019 13:13:08 GMT -5
Seabass, I guess you took notice of Bruins being in on almost every forward available. I know he would be a 100% rental but I would love for Bruins to get Stone out of Ottawa. I think he's as good as any player available and he's very underrated. Think Heinen is too much for a rental player. Bruins dont want someone else in their conference picking him up so they should really go after him bigtime!!
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 28, 2019 13:53:02 GMT -5
Seabass, I guess you took notice of Bruins being in on almost every forward available. I know he would be a 100% rental but I would love for Bruins to get Stone out of Ottawa. I think he's as good as any player available and he's very underrated. Think Heinen is too much for a rental player. Bruins dont want someone else in their conference picking him up so they should really go after him bigtime!! I would take Stone in a heartbeat. I am just nervous as to who we will be giving up. I don't want to lose Frederic, Heinen, Debrusk....
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 28, 2019 14:52:01 GMT -5
I watched 5 minutes of the final game, central vs metro so I didn't even see Pasta. It was wide open, slow and boring with a lot of over passing but they seem to think it's entertaining for some reason. All Star game should be just after training camp a few days before opening day of the season. All-stars as voted the previous year against the Stanley Cup champions, 5 on 5, a real hockey game. It should be in front of the champions home crowd, banner should be raised, the cup should be on hand and it should be a celebration of the most important thing in hockey. Plus if the Cup was won on the road this would be extra special. It'd be a great way to kick off every season. The players have their 10 days off now at the half way mark of the season, the current format just sucks the momentum out of the season IMO. That's a great idea. I'd like to add that any players that get traded/sign somewhere else, go back to their Stanley Cup team for this game. Yes, great add
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 28, 2019 14:58:15 GMT -5
Seabass, I guess you took notice of Bruins being in on almost every forward available. I know he would be a 100% rental but I would love for Bruins to get Stone out of Ottawa. I think he's as good as any player available and he's very underrated. Think Heinen is too much for a rental player. Bruins dont want someone else in their conference picking him up so they should really go after him bigtime!! I would take Stone in a heartbeat. I am just nervous as to who we will be giving up. I don't want to lose Frederic, Heinen, Debrusk.... I know you'll think I'm making this up but I was thinking about how great a fit Stone could be last night. My thought was Krug straight up if Ottawa is not one of his eight teams. Krug will be looking for 7+ million after next year and we'll have to cut him loose anyway.
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Post by skemack on Jan 28, 2019 16:03:09 GMT -5
I would take Stone in a heartbeat. I am just nervous as to who we will be giving up. I don't want to lose Frederic, Heinen, Debrusk.... I know you'll think I'm making this up but I was thinking about how great a fit Stone could be last night. My thought was Krug straight up if Ottawa is not one of his eight teams. Krug will be looking for 7+ million after next year and we'll have to cut him loose anyway. Rental or not Stone is an elite forward and quite frankly the heart and soul of the Senators franchise right now. He is a winger that makes his line mates better, yes he is that caliber of forward. Krug will be of no interest to the Senators as he is too old and he is a known defensive liability to be paid 7+ million. Honestly a straight up offer would be met with laughter by Ottawa. To acquire Stone it would take 1 first rounder minimum plus 2 or three top level prospects. Anything short of that is franchise suicide and it has been a brutal 2 years for them. While anything is possible I would be floored if Stone was traded as I am fully expecting Ottawa to resign him. I am expecting Stone to fetch in the 8-10 million per season range of which Boston can not afford. Duschene is the one that I think will be gone by the deadline but he should be a hard pass by the Bruins.
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 28, 2019 17:18:35 GMT -5
I would take Stone in a heartbeat. I am just nervous as to who we will be giving up. I don't want to lose Frederic, Heinen, Debrusk.... I know you'll think I'm making this up but I was thinking about how great a fit Stone could be last night. My thought was Krug straight up if Ottawa is not one of his eight teams. Krug will be looking for 7+ million after next year and we'll have to cut him loose anyway. Oh I completely believe you, happens to us all the time, haha.. I know Krug has only one season left BUT Stone's contract is up this season. I think Sens will jump at the chance to get Krug at 5+ million even if it is only for one season. Stone is a complete rental player so no team wants to give up much for renting a player for maybe just 2 months..Sens will likely want a 1st round pick, something I very much doubt Sweeney is willing to part with..To lose your 1st rd pick for any player for a couple months is expensive price to pay, of course unless you win cup and he plays a vital part..
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 28, 2019 17:25:24 GMT -5
I know you'll think I'm making this up but I was thinking about how great a fit Stone could be last night. My thought was Krug straight up if Ottawa is not one of his eight teams. Krug will be looking for 7+ million after next year and we'll have to cut him loose anyway. Rental or not Stone is an elite forward and quite frankly the heart and soul of the Senators franchise right now. He is a winger that makes his line mates better, yes he is that caliber of forward. Krug will be of no interest to the Senators as he is too old and he is a known defensive liability to be paid 7+ million. Honestly a straight up offer would be met with laughter by Ottawa. To acquire Stone it would take 1 first rounder minimum plus 2 or three top level prospects. Anything short of that is franchise suicide and it has been a brutal 2 years for them. While anything is possible I would be floored if Stone was traded as I am fully expecting Ottawa to resign him. I am expecting Stone to fetch in the 8-10 million per season range of which Boston can not afford. Duschene is the one that I think will be gone by the deadline but he should be a hard pass by the Bruins. Man that is one helluva hefty price to pay for ANY player for a couple months. And Stone straight up for Krug would not come with laughter. We all know he sucks in his own end but he's also one of the best offensive defensemen in the league..Getting Krug for a season at 5+ million for a season is a pretty decent return for a player they were gonna lose anyway. Plus they can sign Stone like any team after July 1st..
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Post by orym on Jan 28, 2019 17:36:21 GMT -5
Rental or not Stone is an elite forward and quite frankly the heart and soul of the Senators franchise right now. He is a winger that makes his line mates better, yes he is that caliber of forward. Krug will be of no interest to the Senators as he is too old and he is a known defensive liability to be paid 7+ million. Honestly a straight up offer would be met with laughter by Ottawa. To acquire Stone it would take 1 first rounder minimum plus 2 or three top level prospects. Anything short of that is franchise suicide and it has been a brutal 2 years for them. While anything is possible I would be floored if Stone was traded as I am fully expecting Ottawa to resign him. I am expecting Stone to fetch in the 8-10 million per season range of which Boston can not afford. Duschene is the one that I think will be gone by the deadline but he should be a hard pass by the Bruins. Man that is one helluva hefty price to pay for ANY player for a couple months. And Stone straight up for Krug would not come with laughter. We all know he sucks in his own end but he's also one of the best offensive defensemen in the league..Getting Krug for a season at 5+ million for a season is a pretty decent return for a player they were gonna lose anyway. Plus they can sign Stone like any team after July 1st.. Stone will be looking for a big payday and I don't want to see us piss away some more of the future for a guy that won't be back. Even if he would resign, I can't imagine we would give up picks and prospects and then make him the highest paid guy on the team for the next umpteen years. I don't see Sweeney going the "blockbuster" route again this year after what happened with Nash last year. I also don't like trading within the division. It has worked out okay for us mostly with those deals we have made with Toronto but we are one bad trade away from deep, deep regret for many years to come.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 28, 2019 18:43:20 GMT -5
I know you'll think I'm making this up but I was thinking about how great a fit Stone could be last night. My thought was Krug straight up if Ottawa is not one of his eight teams. Krug will be looking for 7+ million after next year and we'll have to cut him loose anyway. Rental or not Stone is an elite forward and quite frankly the heart and soul of the Senators franchise right now. He is a winger that makes his line mates better, yes he is that caliber of forward. Krug will be of no interest to the Senators as he is too old and he is a known defensive liability to be paid 7+ million. Honestly a straight up offer would be met with laughter by Ottawa. To acquire Stone it would take 1 first rounder minimum plus 2 or three top level prospects. Anything short of that is franchise suicide and it has been a brutal 2 years for them. While anything is possible I would be floored if Stone was traded as I am fully expecting Ottawa to resign him. I am expecting Stone to fetch in the 8-10 million per season range of which Boston can not afford. Duschene is the one that I think will be gone by the deadline but he should be a hard pass by the Bruins. I'll be the first to say I'm not a Krug guy and I'd struggle to sell people on the idea but he's finished in the top 10 in scoring by a D-man twice and his offensive numbers are strong again this year. Brent Burns was a -16 last year while Krug was an even not comparing the two but teams do pay a premium for offensive D-men. Krug is one year older than Stone and they would have one more year of contract stability with Krug. If the Sens were going to re-up on Stone don't you think they would have done it already. It was just an idea, I think Krug because I think we won't re-sign him after next year and we're deep on LD. I truly wouldn't give up any kids for Stone because I'm doubtful on whether we could afford him next year as well.
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Post by skemack on Jan 28, 2019 19:12:56 GMT -5
Rental or not Stone is an elite forward and quite frankly the heart and soul of the Senators franchise right now. He is a winger that makes his line mates better, yes he is that caliber of forward. Krug will be of no interest to the Senators as he is too old and he is a known defensive liability to be paid 7+ million. Honestly a straight up offer would be met with laughter by Ottawa. To acquire Stone it would take 1 first rounder minimum plus 2 or three top level prospects. Anything short of that is franchise suicide and it has been a brutal 2 years for them. While anything is possible I would be floored if Stone was traded as I am fully expecting Ottawa to resign him. I am expecting Stone to fetch in the 8-10 million per season range of which Boston can not afford. Duschene is the one that I think will be gone by the deadline but he should be a hard pass by the Bruins. I'll be the first to say I'm not a Krug guy and I'd struggle to sell people on the idea but he's finished in the top 10 in scoring by a D-man twice and his offensive numbers are strong again this year. Brent Burns was a -16 last year while Krug was an even not comparing the two but teams do pay a premium for offensive D-men. Krug is one year older than Stone and they would have one more year of contract stability with Krug. If the Sens were going to re-up on Stone don't you think they would have done it already. It was just an idea, I think Krug because I think we won't re-sign him after next year and we're deep on LD. I truly wouldn't give up any kids for Stone because I'm doubtful on whether we could afford him next year as well. Stone was a narrow arbitration 1 year avoidance contract this past summer. This means that under league rules that the team could not speak to him about an extension on contract until January 1st 2019. They have been talking since and as I said he is the heart and soul of the team and I do believe a deal gets done. I respectfully disagree with others that believe that Ottawa would be interested in Krug for any reason. While Krug is good, a one for one deal is actually akin to the Hall for Larsson move and would be detrimental to the Senators. Krug is a great offensive defensemen but that is where it ends. Stone > Krug everyday of the week and twice on Sunday and I have seen a lot of games for both of them. Stone has 50 points in 50 games playing with essentially nothing as he has Colin White and Brady Tkachuk for linemates. Stone does not play with Duchene or Dzingal much at all. Imagine if Stone had some better players....Bergeron or Krejci for instance. What I am hearing is if they do move on from Stone and Duchene it will be for youth and prospects and not veterans. Neither player will be dealt without at least a first rounder coming back for each of them. Remember this is a team in a full scale rebuild that has no first rounder left this year. Krug is in his late 20's and not a player you build around rather he is a complimentary piece. Stone brings leadership and literally makes players around him better. Stone is a player you build around..no he is not a McJesus, or Crosby generational player but he is an elite winger with excellent leadership and I believe he will be the captain of the team if he signs a multi year deal. Look folks dont get me wrong I am not a Krug hater it is just that living in Ottawa I have seen a hell of a lot of Sens games and I would not trade Stone for a deal involving Krug. The Senators do not need an offensive defensemen right now as they are a -31 in goal differential. Chabot is their offensive dman and damn he is good already and only getting better.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 28, 2019 20:44:41 GMT -5
I'll be the first to say I'm not a Krug guy and I'd struggle to sell people on the idea but he's finished in the top 10 in scoring by a D-man twice and his offensive numbers are strong again this year. Brent Burns was a -16 last year while Krug was an even not comparing the two but teams do pay a premium for offensive D-men. Krug is one year older than Stone and they would have one more year of contract stability with Krug. If the Sens were going to re-up on Stone don't you think they would have done it already. It was just an idea, I think Krug because I think we won't re-sign him after next year and we're deep on LD. I truly wouldn't give up any kids for Stone because I'm doubtful on whether we could afford him next year as well. Stone was a narrow arbitration 1 year avoidance contract this past summer. This means that under league rules that the team could not speak to him about an extension on contract until January 1st 2019. They have been talking since and as I said he is the heart and soul of the team and I do believe a deal gets done. I respectfully disagree with others that believe that Ottawa would be interested in Krug for any reason. While Krug is good, a one for one deal is actually akin to the Hall for Larsson move and would be detrimental to the Senators. Krug is a great offensive defensemen but that is where it ends. Stone > Krug everyday of the week and twice on Sunday and I have seen a lot of games for both of them. Stone has 50 points in 50 games playing with essentially nothing as he has Colin White and Brady Tkachuk for linemates. Stone does not play with Duchene or Dzingal much at all. Imagine if Stone had some better players....Bergeron or Krejci for instance. What I am hearing is if they do move on from Stone and Duchene it will be for youth and prospects and not veterans. Neither player will be dealt without at least a first rounder coming back for each of them. Remember this is a team in a full scale rebuild that has no first rounder left this year. Krug is in his late 20's and not a player you build around rather he is a complimentary piece. Stone brings leadership and literally makes players around him better. Stone is a player you build around..no he is not a McJesus, or Crosby generational player but he is an elite winger with excellent leadership and I believe he will be the captain of the team if he signs a multi year deal. Look folks dont get me wrong I am not a Krug hater it is just that living in Ottawa I have seen a hell of a lot of Sens games and I would not trade Stone for a deal involving Krug. The Senators do not need an offensive defensemen right now as they are a -31 in goal differential. Chabot is their offensive dman and damn he is good already and only getting better. I don't disagree with your evaluation of Stone, he's a very good player (but rental at this point) but I do think you undervalue Krug's worth on the trade market. Krug is probably not up there on Ottawa's list of needs, Chabot looks like the real deal but guys like Krug with a year left at a good number can fetch a good return at trade deadline (ie. Shattenkirk to Washington). I don't think we should be looking for picks and prospects for Krug but maybe we can turn it into something in a separate deal.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 28, 2019 21:08:11 GMT -5
Got a feeling Sweeney will gun-shy this year on the blockbuster move ..
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 29, 2019 12:25:25 GMT -5
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Post by madmarx on Jan 29, 2019 12:40:20 GMT -5
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 29, 2019 17:24:52 GMT -5
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