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Post by SeaBass on Mar 2, 2024 9:37:09 GMT -5
Would you do straight up Vatrano for Debrusk? Yup
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 2, 2024 10:44:58 GMT -5
Would you do straight up Vatrano for Debrusk? Yup I would but I’d hold off to the last minute in hopes of a better deal. Only because we’ll be in the same situation with Frankie this time next year.
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Post by KSJ08 on Mar 2, 2024 11:02:27 GMT -5
Always liked Frankie, has a great shot, small but built like a bull dog.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 2, 2024 14:36:57 GMT -5
Always liked Frankie, has a great shot, small but built like a bull dog. Frank the tank.
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Post by nfld77 on Mar 2, 2024 14:56:06 GMT -5
Always liked Frankie, has a great shot, small but built like a bull dog. Frank the tank. Vatrano is on pace for 40 goals this season, 29 in 60 games already..He signed a 3 yr 11 million dol contract July of 2022 so he's under contract for this season and next at just under 4 million..
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2024 9:41:34 GMT -5
Friedman has Tampa Bay as the front runner for Hanifan now.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2024 10:12:47 GMT -5
Friedman has Tampa Bay as the front runner for Hanifan now. I bet he ends up with the Rangers.
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Post by orym on Mar 4, 2024 10:14:43 GMT -5
Friedman has Tampa Bay as the front runner for Hanifan now. I'm not liking the odds of a great return for the Flames if they are working with TB. It won't be first round picks (unless they want to wait until 2026) and the prospect names they are throwing around are kind of guys I haven't heard much about. I heard Florida was in the mix too and if TB and FLA are in, I'd say we are basically out.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 4, 2024 10:22:36 GMT -5
Friedman has Tampa Bay as the front runner for Hanifan now. Vegas has lots of room
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2024 10:23:45 GMT -5
I got too much time on my hands but I was just throwing this around in my head, Ullmark and a prospect for Hanifan and Calgary can trade Markstrom to the Devils (Nemec) and prospect and still have a goalie that keeps them in the hunt.
But Ullmark has the limited no trade clause.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 4, 2024 10:28:06 GMT -5
I got too much time on my hands but I was just throwing this around in my head, Ullmark and a prospect for Hanifan and Calgary can trade Markstrom to the Devils (Nemec) and prospect and still have a goalie that keeps them in the hunt. But Ullmark has the limited no trade clause. Sixteen teams I think Buffalo would maybe want him back
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2024 10:37:56 GMT -5
I got too much time on my hands but I was just throwing this around in my head, Ullmark and a prospect for Hanifan and Calgary can trade Markstrom to the Devils (Nemec) and prospect and still have a goalie that keeps them in the hunt. But Ullmark has the limited no trade clause. Sixteen teams I think Buffalo would maybe want him back Which center can we get from Buffalo?
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Post by madmarx on Mar 4, 2024 10:57:54 GMT -5
Sixteen teams I think Buffalo would maybe want him back Which center can we get from Buffalo? I would do picks and maybe flip them elsewhere plus you free up cap
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2024 14:01:27 GMT -5
Bruins Blog - Deadline Deals?
Will Don Sweeney do what he always does and make a trade at the deadline or stand still for the first time in his tenure as Bruins GM?
There are some massive decisions to make in the coming months for Sweeney. Should he sell off their most valuable assets for a big fish like Noah Hanifin or wait until the offseason to reload for a playoff run next season?
Is Sweens going to be able to re-sign pending RFA Jeremy Swayman to a long-term deal and trade or keep Linus Ullmark for one season?
Should the Bruins add another forward even if it means moving Jake DeBrusk?
Definitely some significant conversations happening in the GM’s office right now. At a minimum I expect Sweeney to make at least one trade at the deadline, likely adding another forward.
Goalies
Obviously priority number 1 after the deadline is to re-sign Swayman to a long term deal. As long as his contract demands are in the ballpark of 7 x $6.5M, he needs to be the future in net. Tuukka Rask signed for 8x$7M in 2013 after the Stanley Cup loss to Chicago for reference. Expect something just under that Rask deal unless he carries this team on a deep playoff run.
Speaking of playoffs, Swayman needs to be given the chance to start the first round of the playoffs in my opinion. Linus Ullmark has had his chances as playoff starter and although he hasn’t been bad, it hasn’t been enough. I’d keep him in the bullpen ready to go if Swayman struggles instead of the other way around.
Defense
The price to get Hanifin from the Flames is going to be at least a 1st round pick and Fabian Lysell. That would be good enough for me, but the Flames probably want more. The Bruins could afford to sign him in free agency this summer, if he makes it there, but Hanifin does have an 8-team No-Trade Clause.
I’m for letting Mason Lohrei run with the bulls and keep him in the NHL. Live with the mistakes to see if he can develop into a difference-maker in the playoffs. When Lohrei has defensive breakdowns, he makes up for by generating offense. When Derek Forbort has defensive breakdowns, he makes up for it by not generating any offense. Hopefully Sweeney and Jim Montgomery follow this very simple logic.
Hanifin-Lindholm-Lohrei on the left side of the defense for the next 4 seasons with Swayman in net makes this team a legit threat every year.
Time to sell Matt Grzelcyk and Derek Forbort if possible. Both players are over 30 years old and haven’t played with confidence this season. However, keeping one or both of them for the playoffs isn’t the worst option because both players are capable of raising their games. Depending on the cap situation, trading one or both of them would be prudent.
Forwards
If the Bruins can’t add a player like Noah Hanifin, I expect them to target a forward on an expiring deal. The following are my own list of forwards I think they might acquire
-Anthony Mantha -Adam Henrique -Tomas Novak -Alex Wennberg
Players under contract past this season that would be good fits for the current Bruins roster
-Tomas Hertl (6x$8M), San Jose -Boone Jenner (2x$3.75M), Columbus
Hertl is 30 years old and likely looking to join a contender. San Jose is building a younger core and would probably be wise to trade Hertl to get future assets and save themselves money at the same time. A Czech line of Zacha-Hertl-Pastrnak would be a bonafide top line in the Eastern Conference.
Jenner turns 31 in June and Columbus and has several suitors looking to acquire him. I would take him if the price is right, but I’d rather swing for someone like Hertl.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 4, 2024 14:44:05 GMT -5
#SeaKraken Alex Wennberg is unavailable tonight for “trade-related issues”
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2024 14:57:09 GMT -5
#SeaKraken Alex Wennberg is unavailable tonight for “trade-related issues” Novak signed an extension today with Nashville.
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2024 15:59:02 GMT -5
Hertl would be a no for me because of the 7 years remaining at 8.125 million cap hit but with that said we have no top 6 centers that would become magically available now or this offseason. Hertl is a Czech and he might be good for Pasta. If he’s good in the faceoff circle that would be another positive.
Also he’s hurt right now but I haven’t checked his timeline for return.
I guess I’m more on the fence than a no. ☺️
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Post by madmarx on Mar 4, 2024 17:27:39 GMT -5
Hertl would be a no for me because of the 7 years remaining at 8.125 million cap hit but with that said we have no top 6 centers that would become magically available now or this offseason. Hertl is a Czech and he might be good for Pasta. If he’s good in the faceoff circle that would be another positive. Also he’s hurt right now but I haven’t checked his timeline for return. I guess I’m more on the fence than a no. ☺️ Need Young Players going forward 🤷♂️
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Post by nfld77 on Mar 4, 2024 17:42:00 GMT -5
Hertl would be a no for me because of the 7 years remaining at 8.125 million cap hit but with that said we have no top 6 centers that would become magically available now or this offseason. Hertl is a Czech and he might be good for Pasta. If he’s good in the faceoff circle that would be another positive. Also he’s hurt right now but I haven’t checked his timeline for return. I guess I’m more on the fence than a no. ☺️ Hope this helps KJC..Hertl has won 56.3% of his faceoffs, that would be #1 on Bruins..He won 506 draws to 392 losses.. Look under 2nd column www.espn.com/nhl/team/stats/_/name/sj
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2024 20:03:54 GMT -5
Hertl would be a no for me because of the 7 years remaining at 8.125 million cap hit but with that said we have no top 6 centers that would become magically available now or this offseason. Hertl is a Czech and he might be good for Pasta. If he’s good in the faceoff circle that would be another positive. Also he’s hurt right now but I haven’t checked his timeline for return. I guess I’m more on the fence than a no. ☺️ Hope this helps KJC..Hertl has won 56.3% of his faceoffs, that would be #1 on Bruins..He won 506 draws to 392 losses.. Look under 2nd column www.espn.com/nhl/team/stats/_/name/sjThanks Buddy. I’m not overly crazy about Hertl but I hate the idea of potentially starting next season with Coyle and Zacha as our top two centers again. It’s all very good to say we’ll have plenty of cap space this summer but who knows what’s going to be available at center?
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Post by nfld77 on Mar 4, 2024 23:50:54 GMT -5
Thanks Buddy. I’m not overly crazy about Hertl but I hate the idea of potentially starting next season with Coyle and Zacha as our top two centers again. It’s all very good to say we’ll have plenty of cap space this summer but who knows what’s going to be available at center? I know he's a winger but I wonder is there interest in bringing back Tyler Bertuzzi?? IF Bruins had the cap space this past summer, maybe he would have resigned.. Anyway, totally agree we desperately need a #1 centre..Thats why I have a tough time figuring out how Bruins can afford another big contract on the blueline, especially if we still have Ullmark along with Swayman maybe getting 7 million a season..Coyle and/or Zacha are ok as #2 centres but neither are #1 centres and credit to both for playing so well as they have.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 5, 2024 16:47:44 GMT -5
With the #canucks believed to be among those pursuing Jake Guentzel, word is they've had discussions about potentially flipping Elias Lindholm to the #bruins as part of the machinations to make it happen.
Nothing concrete in place at this time. Still lots of moving parts.
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Post by fforr on Mar 5, 2024 17:24:28 GMT -5
With the #canucks believed to be among those pursuing Jake Guentzel, word is they've had discussions about potentially flipping Elias Lindholm to the #bruins as part of the machinations to make it happen. Nothing concrete in place at this time. Still lots of moving parts. Just saw that. Jake comes to mind first for me. Would they trade him to Pittsburgh though?
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Post by madmarx on Mar 5, 2024 17:28:44 GMT -5
With the #canucks believed to be among those pursuing Jake Guentzel, word is they've had discussions about potentially flipping Elias Lindholm to the #bruins as part of the machinations to make it happen. Nothing concrete in place at this time. Still lots of moving parts. Just saw that. Jake comes to mind first for me. Would they trade him to Pittsburgh though? If I had to guess yes tonight’s lineup may answer that ?
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 5, 2024 17:30:22 GMT -5
With the #canucks believed to be among those pursuing Jake Guentzel, word is they've had discussions about potentially flipping Elias Lindholm to the #bruins as part of the machinations to make it happen. Nothing concrete in place at this time. Still lots of moving parts. Interesting.
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 5, 2024 19:17:17 GMT -5
I know they haven’t but did the Canucks attempt to extend Lindholm? Maybe they picked him up to put pressure on Petey to sign his extension.
Wasn’t Lindholm looking for a 9 million dollar multi year deal, not sure how I feel about him.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 5, 2024 19:29:12 GMT -5
I know they haven’t but did the Canucks attempt to extend Lindholm? Maybe they picked him up to put pressure on Petey to sign his extension. Wasn’t Lindholm looking for a 9 million dollar multi year deal, not sure how I feel about him. 8yrs x 9mil was the rumoured offer from the Flames . Gotta wonder how this ends if he stays put .
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 5, 2024 19:39:05 GMT -5
I know they haven’t but did the Canucks attempt to extend Lindholm? Maybe they picked him up to put pressure on Petey to sign his extension. Wasn’t Lindholm looking for a 9 million dollar multi year deal, not sure how I feel about him. 8yrs x 9mil was the rumoured offer from the Flames . Gotta wonder how this ends if he stays put . I think Jim Rutherford is losing his mind.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 6, 2024 10:32:32 GMT -5
Devils goalie options: preferred route is still to get Markstrom out of Calgary, or does an Ullmark trade with Boston make sense. If that can't be, then wait until summer to fix the net but in meantime, maybe a stopgap measure. Rental Kevin Lankinen in Nash as an option?
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Post by madmarx on Mar 6, 2024 13:21:35 GMT -5
Hearing that trade talks are heating up between Edmonton and Anaheim on Adam Henrique... let's see where it goes
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