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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 6:57:21 GMT -5
i closed my eyes at 9 pm and the next thing i knew it was 9:30 and game over...it was really weird..
but anyway...great win. i am positive that some fans and radio personalities will refuse this win. they will continue to bitch about louis being here and continue to bash sweeney who's moves look really good at this point.
despite news coming out that louis got no real offers worth taking.
i kinda want to hear felger and mazz today....you got lucky, chi was tired, it was the backup goaler...all this..i can see.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 6:58:04 GMT -5
Was my boys birthday today he will be happy for sure my mom's bd too.
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2016 8:41:48 GMT -5
Like I said before the game, I don't care how we win just win. The two new guys are veterans and it's very easy to see the subtle things they do to keep themselves out of trouble. Our young guys get in trouble because they're inexperienced and try ill advised things in the wrong areas on the ice. Our very old and slow or just slow players get in trouble because they get closed on fast because they just can't skate well. Both new guys are quick enough, have skill, a ton of experience and can eat a lot of minutes.
I am not disagreeing with the people who wanted us to move Louie, who didn't want us to give up draft picks for a couple of retreads and who wanted to use youth down the stretch. I got pissed off at decisions on trade deadline day but it's done so I reset my thinking based on what's in front of me. Like it or not we brought in two new guys and they will help us get into the playoffs. Go Bruins!
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Post by eddy on Mar 4, 2016 9:09:22 GMT -5
Like I said before the game, I don't care how we win just win. The two new guys are veterans and it's very easy to see the subtle things they do to keep themselves out of trouble. Our young guys get in trouble because they're inexperienced and try ill advised things in the wrong areas on the ice. Our very old and slow or just slow players get in trouble because they get closed on fast because they just can't skate well. Both new guys are quick enough, have skill, a ton of experience and can eat a lot of minutes. I am not disagreeing with the people who wanted us to move Louie, who didn't want us to give up draft picks for a couple of retreads and who wanted to use youth down the stretch. I got pissed off at decisions on trade deadline day but it's done so I reset my thinking based on what's in front of me. Like it or not we brought in two new guys and they will help us get into the playoffs. Go Bruins! I think playoffs are almost a given - it'll be interesting to see what happens once they get there. No question, this team is better with the additions. How much better is the question. Great win last night against a tough team. They should pay themselves on the back after this one.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 9:14:08 GMT -5
now one thing i would agree with that looks at it from a negative side is will they now look like total crap against the caps...this hasa been the trend.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 9:15:31 GMT -5
Like I said before the game, I don't care how we win just win. The two new guys are veterans and it's very easy to see the subtle things they do to keep themselves out of trouble. Our young guys get in trouble because they're inexperienced and try ill advised things in the wrong areas on the ice. Our very old and slow or just slow players get in trouble because they get closed on fast because they just can't skate well. Both new guys are quick enough, have skill, a ton of experience and can eat a lot of minutes. I am not disagreeing with the people who wanted us to move Louie, who didn't want us to give up draft picks for a couple of retreads and who wanted to use youth down the stretch. I got pissed off at decisions on trade deadline day but it's done so I reset my thinking based on what's in front of me. Like it or not we brought in two new guys and they will help us get into the playoffs. Go Bruins! those picks are worthless. the bruins had three number ones last year...that makes up for any seconds or fourths they dump. and i see them keeping stepniak....he will be cheap and a good fit for bergies line. liles i dont know but he looked good last night.
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Post by eddy on Mar 4, 2016 9:22:36 GMT -5
Bergeron, Krejci, Loui and Spooner were all 2nd round picks. Still think 2nd rounders are worthless?
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 9:40:54 GMT -5
Bergeron, Krejci, Loui and Spooner were all 2nd round picks. Still think 2nd rounders are worthless? worthless in the sense that they have stocked the shelves already. last year people complained that they kept three first rounders and didnt trade them...now people complain that they didnt keep second/fourth round picks. cant have the cake and eat it too.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 9:43:20 GMT -5
Bergeron, Krejci, Loui and Spooner were all 2nd round picks. Still think 2nd rounders are worthless? and there is also a list of hall of famers that were not drafted, signed as free agents.
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Post by The Bitter Man on Mar 4, 2016 9:48:31 GMT -5
Good win and home win. Take the pts. A matchup with a rested Hawks team with the starter playing would have been interesting.
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2016 10:03:21 GMT -5
Bergeron, Krejci, Loui and Spooner were all 2nd round picks. Still think 2nd rounders are worthless? and there is also a list of hall of famers that were not drafted, signed as free agents. Draft picks are never worthless but the players they select with them may turn out that way. The more picks you have the more chance you have of 1 or maybe 2 turning into a quality player. Looks like we have six strong prospects from last years draft but realistically how many get to make an impact on the Bruins. No doubt it's a balancing act, you can't have 20 players under the age of 22 under contract in the system when you can only have a total of 50 contracts. You always need a blended age group, maybe Sweeney was thinking that way when he traded away four picks and a prospect on Monday.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 10:21:54 GMT -5
and there is also a list of hall of famers that were not drafted, signed as free agents. Draft picks are never worthless but the players they select with them may turn out that way. The more picks you have the more chance you have of 1 or maybe 2 turning into a quality player. Looks like we have six strong prospects from last years draft but realistically how many get to make an impact on the Bruins. No doubt it's a balancing act, you can't have 20 players under the age of 22 under contract in the system when you can only have a total of 50 contracts. You always need a blended age group, maybe Sweeney was thinking that way when he traded away four picks and a prospect on Monday. they will get a pick when louis signs somewhere else....also think of all the guys that dont make it..koko right at the top....the free agents they signed have a better chance to make it than him. i hope you see where im coming from. they had a huge draft last year. they still have a second rounder , they had two and they also still have a fourth. they did not trade away picks and have none left.
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Post by eddy on Mar 4, 2016 10:37:10 GMT -5
Bergeron, Krejci, Loui and Spooner were all 2nd round picks. Still think 2nd rounders are worthless? worthless in the sense that they have stocked the shelves already. last year people complained that they kept three first rounders and didnt trade them...now people complain that they didnt keep second/fourth round picks. cant have the cake and eat it too. They have one year of rebuilding the farm system. And while first rounders are nice, most in the mid to late first round historically are no better than 2nd and 3rd rounders. Calling it a stocked shelf at this point is putting on rose colored glasses and going for the all you can drink kool aid. They're better than they were a year ago but still a long way off from having a healthy development group.
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Post by crafar01 on Mar 4, 2016 10:44:12 GMT -5
worthless in the sense that they have stocked the shelves already. last year people complained that they kept three first rounders and didnt trade them...now people complain that they didnt keep second/fourth round picks. cant have the cake and eat it too. They have one year of rebuilding the farm system. And while first rounders are nice, most in the mid to late first round historically are no better than 2nd and 3rd rounders. Calling it a stocked shelf at this point is putting on rose colored glasses and going for the all you can drink kool aid. They're better than they were a year ago but still a long way off from having a healthy development group. Just playing devil's advocate here, but it isn't just some of us here that see them as having vastly improved/restocked their farm system. Time will tell, as with any group of youngsters, but I think we are better off than many teams in the league. My only disagreement with HF's assessment is the bit about the Bruins not having any weaknesses - I still don't feel like we have any depth at defense. 5 Boston Bruins
TEAM BREAKDOWN: Strengths: The Boston Bruins have a deep and diverse group of prospects, thanks to a big day at the 2015 NHL Draft where the team picked up six players in the first two rounds (10 in total). Although analysts were surprised to see the team select Jake DeBrusk and Zachary Senyshyn so high (14th and 15th overall, respectively), no one doubts that the team will benefit from the selections at some point. Boston was also able to acquire Colin Miller and Sean Kuraly during a flurry of trades last summer. Although David Pastrnak will graduate very soon and Ryan Spooner has already done so, the depth chart will again benefit from a big draft this June as the Bruins have two picks in each of the first two rounds in the 2016 NHL Draft.
Weaknesses: The easy answer is none—the Bruins have difference-makers at every position. If you were to nitpick, you could say that the team has too many centers, and not enough wingers. Once David Pastrnak graduates this season, Senyshyn is the only right winger with the potential to play in Boston’s top six. With DeBrusk being the top-ranked left winger in the system, the Bruins had better be right about their decisions during the first round of the 2015 draft.
Top 5 Prospects: 1. Malcolm Subban, G; 2. Jakub Zboril, D; 3. David Pastrnak, RW; 4. Joe Morrow, D; 5. Seth Griffith, RW
Key Additions: Sean Kuraly (Trade – COL), Colin Miller (Trade – LAK), Jake DeBrusk (Draft), Jakub Zboril (Draft), Zachary Senyshyn (Draft)
Key Losses: Niklas Svedberg (Not re-signed), Ryan Spooner (Graduation)
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 11:00:49 GMT -5
guys...my point is they had two seconds and two fouths. so they have a normal amount now...they didnt trade away picks and have none left.
im getting my words used against me.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2016 11:33:37 GMT -5
guys...my point is they had two seconds and two fouths. so they have a normal amount now...they didnt trade away picks and have none left. im getting my words used against me. I get your point....but this year they have 2 1st's, 1 2nd, 2 5th's a 6th and a 7th. They traded away on of the 2nd's a 3rd and a 4th.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2016 11:40:25 GMT -5
guys...my point is they had two seconds and two fouths. so they have a normal amount now...they didnt trade away picks and have none left. im getting my words used against me. I get your point....but this year they have 2 1st's, 1 2nd, 2 5th's a 6th and a 7th. They traded away one of the 2nd's a 3rd and a 4th. Although.....we could have Edmonton's 2nd this year. They get to choose either this year or next. I would imagine it would be next as it will be a HIGH 2nd rounder again this year as they still suck.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2016 11:41:57 GMT -5
I get your point....but this year they have 2 1st's, 1 2nd, 2 5th's a 6th and a 7th. They traded away one of the 2nd's a 3rd and a 4th. Although.....we could have Edmonton's 2nd this year. They get to choose either this year or next. I would imagine it would be next as it will be a HIGH 2nd rounder again this year as they still suck. And.....if we get Edmonton's 2nd this year we are hosed for next year. A 1st, a 4th a 6th and a 7th.
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Post by bruinsnorth on Mar 4, 2016 11:49:39 GMT -5
If the Bs can hold on to the 3rd spot I think they will draw FLA in the first round and I like their chances better against them than I do the Lightning. They probably get TBL in Round 2 where they will most likely be Lightninged up. But you just never know what injuries can pop up. The year the Bs won the cup the Pens had both Crosby and Malkin on the shelf and the Lightning eliminted them. Washington looks great but they have looked great in years past but have never been able to get it done. Are they the Sharks of the Eastern Conference? The thing that scares me most about them is Holtby playing so well. I don't think the Sharks have ever had a goalie of that caliber which has been a big part of their troubles in the post season.
Bs looked pretty good last night. They had a few lapses here and there but Tuuks cleaned up the mess when they did lay their turds. Still have a hard time with Miller ahead of Morrow. There was one play last night when the Bs were breaking out and Pasta dropped it back to Miller and he was just standing still watching the play when he should have been moving up ice with the play. Of course it lead to a turnover.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 12:09:20 GMT -5
guys...my point is they had two seconds and two fouths. so they have a normal amount now...they didnt trade away picks and have none left. im getting my words used against me. I get your point....but this year they have 2 1st's, 1 2nd, 2 5th's a 6th and a 7th. They traded away on of the 2nd's a 3rd and a 4th. well i , perosonally, would rather have steps and liles for the draft picks now instead of waiting to see if some kids pan out five years from now. its no secret the b's have blundered on some picks in the past.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2016 12:32:07 GMT -5
I get your point....but this year they have 2 1st's, 1 2nd, 2 5th's a 6th and a 7th. They traded away on of the 2nd's a 3rd and a 4th. well i , perosonally, would rather have steps and liles for the draft picks now instead of waiting to see if some kids pan out five years from now. its no secret the b's have blundered on some picks in the past. I guess the question would be...is Stemp and Liles any better than Vatrano/Koko and Trotman/Morrow.
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Post by madmarx on Mar 4, 2016 12:40:03 GMT -5
well i , perosonally, would rather have steps and liles for the draft picks now instead of waiting to see if some kids pan out five years from now. its no secret the b's have blundered on some picks in the past. I guess the question would be...is Stemp and Liles any better than Vatrano/Koko and Trotman/Morrow. And would you rather the young Guys get a taste of post season .. Both sides have some very valid points , I'm ready to see what the rest of the season brings ..
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Post by fforr on Mar 4, 2016 13:32:36 GMT -5
Just finished up, played a good smart game. Didn't beat themselves, didn't self destruct against a good team. Like to see what a little bit of confidence does for these guys.
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2016 14:06:07 GMT -5
I guess the question would be...is Stemp and Liles any better than Vatrano/Koko and Trotman/Morrow. And would you rather the young Guys get a taste of post season .. Both sides have some very valid points , I'm ready to see what the rest of the season brings .. The approach we took this year is okay to try once but as a general rule it's a horrible idea. You build through the draft but if you are a contender you add an extra piece(s) anyway you can. We're not a contender, that's how most of us feel I think but we can do damage if things go well and we get a couple of good matchups.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Mar 4, 2016 14:12:36 GMT -5
the ahl playoffs will offer good experience ...other teams like the redwings dont rush players into the lineup. koko is not going to make this team. vatrano will be here next year. morrow will be too i think.
i dont know if you want them to cut their teeth in the NHL playoffs and get bounced or do you want them to have a run in the minors. that can be good experience. i dont know.
they havent showed me anything up here thus far. i dont want to give up on them. i dont know...long week at work.
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Post by crafar01 on Mar 4, 2016 14:16:40 GMT -5
And would you rather the young Guys get a taste of post season .. Both sides have some very valid points , I'm ready to see what the rest of the season brings .. The approach we took this year is okay to try once but as a general rule it's a horrible idea. You build through the draft but if you are a contender you add an extra piece(s) anyway you can. We're not a contender, that's how most of us feel I think but we can do damage if things go well and we get a couple of good matchups. Well, one thing we have going for us this year is that, barring a minor miracle, we won't need to worry about playing Montreal at any point. However, we can't beat Holtby so playing/losing to the Caps will suck as well, just not as bad as playing/losing to the Scabs.
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 4, 2016 14:54:14 GMT -5
the ahl playoffs will offer good experience ...other teams like the redwings dont rush players into the lineup. koko is not going to make this team. vatrano will be here next year. morrow will be too i think. i dont know if you want them to cut their teeth in the NHL playoffs and get bounced or do you want them to have a run in the minors. that can be good experience. i dont know. they havent showed me anything up here thus far. i dont want to give up on them. i dont know...long week at work. Most of them could have done both. Get bounced in the 1st round and then head back to Providence...
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Post by eddy on Mar 4, 2016 20:00:29 GMT -5
well i , perosonally, would rather have steps and liles for the draft picks now instead of waiting to see if some kids pan out five years from now. its no secret the b's have blundered on some picks in the past. I guess the question would be...is Stemp and Liles any better than Vatrano/Koko and Trotman/Morrow. In short. Yes. Much better.
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 4, 2016 20:06:40 GMT -5
I guess the question would be...is Stemp and Liles any better than Vatrano/Koko and Trotman/Morrow. In short. Yes. Much better. Better because they are veterans and not as prone to the mistakes of a young player.
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Post by eddy on Mar 4, 2016 20:11:42 GMT -5
In short. Yes. Much better. Better because they are veterans and not as prone to the mistakes of a young player. That's part of it, and on the D side Liles is just many steps above the kids in terms of talent right now - even as a Leaf retread. He won't solidify the d but he should stabilize it.
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