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Post by SeaBass on Jan 2, 2020 9:53:54 GMT -5
Please keep the content in this thread Freddy related.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 2, 2020 14:28:41 GMT -5
Not sure what he’s going to become but he’s in the right place right now. He’ll get more quality minutes in the AHL and maybe he cracks the lineup next year.
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Post by chesterbear on Jan 19, 2020 15:28:50 GMT -5
Bring him up plz,need his toughness right about now
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Post by madmarx on Jan 19, 2020 16:20:07 GMT -5
Bring him up plz,need his toughness right about now Calling for him for over a month not sure what Management is missing..
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 19, 2020 20:32:14 GMT -5
Bring him up plz,need his toughness right about now Calling for him for over a month not sure what Management is missing.. I think they’re afraid their first round pick will adopt the goon role and it will put a halt to his development as a player. I want to see him now too, I can’t watch this soft version of the Bruins any longer.
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Post by orym on Jan 20, 2020 9:48:07 GMT -5
Calling for him for over a month not sure what Management is missing.. I think they’re afraid their first round pick will adopt the goon role and it will put a halt to his development as a player. I want to see him now too, I can’t watch this soft version of the Bruins any longer. I wouldn't expect him to come in and totally goon it up but it would be nice to add a little grit heading toward the back half of the season. I think we will see him but given where we are in the standings and the way he has played quite hard it seems in P, maybe they are saving him for the late part of the season. I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't get the call at some point. I think he is just the type of player we need come playoff time.
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 20, 2020 15:19:47 GMT -5
I think they’re afraid their first round pick will adopt the goon role and it will put a halt to his development as a player. I want to see him now too, I can’t watch this soft version of the Bruins any longer. I wouldn't expect him to come in and totally goon it up but it would be nice to add a little grit heading toward the back half of the season. I think we will see him but given where we are in the standings and the way he has played quite hard it seems in P, maybe they are saving him for the late part of the season. I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't get the call at some point. I think he is just the type of player we need come playoff time. I’d like to see him up here too, sooner than later.
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Post by SeaBass on Jan 22, 2020 12:45:35 GMT -5
I wonder if has anything to do with us already having used 47 of our 50 contracts. Assuming Miller comes back at some point that chews up 1.
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Post by fforr on Jan 22, 2020 13:46:10 GMT -5
He must have done a complete 180 since the last time we saw him it seems.
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 22, 2020 21:07:48 GMT -5
I think they’re afraid their first round pick will adopt the goon role and it will put a halt to his development as a player. I want to see him now too, I can’t watch this soft version of the Bruins any longer. I wouldn't expect him to come in and totally goon it up but it would be nice to add a little grit heading toward the back half of the season. I think we will see him but given where we are in the standings and the way he has played quite hard it seems in P, maybe they are saving him for the late part of the season. I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't get the call at some point. I think he is just the type of player we need come playoff time. I mentioned several times that they should bring him up for physical presence but nobody responded here so I figured no one felt same as me..Same story with Studnicka and Lauzon. Aint no sense posting just for me to read it. Ory, you just might be right bud..Maybe they're gonna let him continue to play heavy minutes on the farm and maybe call him up in March..Maybe same with Stud. Hey how did you like Lauzon's game last night. Lol, he scores in his 2nd game up and Poor ole McAvoy still cant buy a goal..Anyway, nice to see the kid score but I thought he was pretty steady in his own end.. Seems to me Grz is really off his game lately..
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Post by orym on Jan 22, 2020 21:34:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect him to come in and totally goon it up but it would be nice to add a little grit heading toward the back half of the season. I think we will see him but given where we are in the standings and the way he has played quite hard it seems in P, maybe they are saving him for the late part of the season. I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't get the call at some point. I think he is just the type of player we need come playoff time. I mentioned several times that they should bring him up for physical presence but nobody responded here so I figured no one felt same as me..Same story with Studnicka and Lauzon. Aint no sense posting just for me to read it. Ory, you just might be right bud..Maybe they're gonna let him continue to play heavy minutes on the farm and maybe call him up in March..Maybe same with Stud. Hey how did you like Lauzon's game last night. Lol, he scores in his 2nd game up and Poor ole McAvoy still cant buy a goal..Anyway, nice to see the kid score but I thought he was pretty steady in his own end.. Seems to me Grz is really off his game lately.. Lauzon looked good! Need to keep a few guys like that in the line up fighting for jobs I think. Not sure what is going on with Grz.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 22, 2020 22:02:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect him to come in and totally goon it up but it would be nice to add a little grit heading toward the back half of the season. I think we will see him but given where we are in the standings and the way he has played quite hard it seems in P, maybe they are saving him for the late part of the season. I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't get the call at some point. I think he is just the type of player we need come playoff time. I mentioned several times that they should bring him up for physical presence but nobody responded here so I figured no one felt same as me..Same story with Studnicka and Lauzon. Aint no sense posting just for me to read it. Ory, you just might be right bud..Maybe they're gonna let him continue to play heavy minutes on the farm and maybe call him up in March..Maybe same with Stud. Hey how did you like Lauzon's game last night. Lol, he scores in his 2nd game up and Poor ole McAvoy still cant buy a goal..Anyway, nice to see the kid score but I thought he was pretty steady in his own end.. Seems to me Grz is really off his game lately.. Sorry if I missed your posts but I have been calling for the Yutes forever before making any trades ..Especially Fredric.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Jan 23, 2020 4:59:02 GMT -5
I mentioned several times that they should bring him up for physical presence but nobody responded here so I figured no one felt same as me..Same story with Studnicka and Lauzon. Aint no sense posting just for me to read it. Ory, you just might be right bud..Maybe they're gonna let him continue to play heavy minutes on the farm and maybe call him up in March..Maybe same with Stud. Hey how did you like Lauzon's game last night. Lol, he scores in his 2nd game up and Poor ole McAvoy still cant buy a goal..Anyway, nice to see the kid score but I thought he was pretty steady in his own end.. Seems to me Grz is really off his game lately.. Sorry if I missed your posts but I have been calling for the Yutes forever before making any trades ..Especially Fredric. i agree..my fear is they trade some good prospects before giving them a shot. and then of course they turn out to be bill ranford.
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Post by madmarx on Jan 23, 2020 10:02:20 GMT -5
I have read the reasoning behind leaving Fredric in Providence is ice time, he plays twenty minutes in Pro if he was to called up to the Bruins he would be lucky to get half of that ??
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Post by nfld77 on Jan 23, 2020 12:55:13 GMT -5
I mentioned several times that they should bring him up for physical presence but nobody responded here so I figured no one felt same as me..Same story with Studnicka and Lauzon. Aint no sense posting just for me to read it. Ory, you just might be right bud..Maybe they're gonna let him continue to play heavy minutes on the farm and maybe call him up in March..Maybe same with Stud. Hey how did you like Lauzon's game last night. Lol, he scores in his 2nd game up and Poor ole McAvoy still cant buy a goal..Anyway, nice to see the kid score but I thought he was pretty steady in his own end.. Seems to me Grz is really off his game lately.. Sorry if I missed your posts but I have been calling for the Yutes forever before making any trades ..Especially Fredric. Oh brother, I wish I would read my post before I hit "POST"..All I actually meant was maybe I was the only one who figured now was a good time to call up Freddie or Stud..I certainly dont expect a response evert time I post..As far as Im concerned, we have always been treated equally here and never no favorism..All is perfect here as far as I'm concerned but I'm sorry I made my post so easy to misinterpret..Cheers and GO BRUINS!!
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Post by madmarx on Jan 23, 2020 15:59:12 GMT -5
Sorry if I missed your posts but I have been calling for the Yutes forever before making any trades ..Especially Fredric. Oh brother, I wish I would read my post before I hit "POST"..All I actually meant was maybe I was the only one who figured now was a good time to call up Freddie or Stud..I certainly dont expect a response evert time I post..As far as Im concerned, we have always been treated equally here and never no favorism..All is perfect here as far as I'm concerned but I'm sorry I made my post so easy to misinterpret..Cheers and GO BRUINS!! No worries here I think most here are all on the same page when it’s comes to the Yutes..
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Post by kjc2 on Jan 24, 2020 8:19:44 GMT -5
No harm in bringing him up for a taste and see how he holds up.
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Post by offwego on Jan 25, 2020 12:17:44 GMT -5
Oh brother, I wish I would read my post before I hit "POST"..All I actually meant was maybe I was the only one who figured now was a good time to call up Freddie or Stud..I certainly dont expect a response evert time I post..As far as Im concerned, we have always been treated equally here and never no favorism..All is perfect here as far as I'm concerned but I'm sorry I made my post so easy to misinterpret..Cheers and GO BRUINS!! No worries here I think most here are all on the same page when it’s comes to the Yutes.. I'm all for the yutes getting a shot. And I'm going to assume powers that be will make right decision when the time comes. PS McAvoy is a bum.... and no this is not a thread highjack. I wanna see trent do well maybe he can take Chucks spot in the lineup
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Post by madmarx on Mar 10, 2021 20:54:24 GMT -5
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Post by fforr on Mar 10, 2021 22:20:25 GMT -5
Good stuff. A silver lining this year.
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Post by kjc2 on Mar 11, 2021 5:53:27 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Mar 11, 2021 7:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by SeaBass on Sept 30, 2022 10:18:03 GMT -5
Trent Frederic went to school over the summer, but class was held on canvas rather than campus. Encouraged by his brother’s love of the sweet science, the 24-year-old center/wing incorporated boxing lessons into his off-ice workouts, sometimes lacing up the gloves three times a week.
“Just took it on as another kind of workout,” said Frederic, noting his intention was not to transfer his new skills to the ice sheet. “It’s a lot different than a hockey fight.”
Best of all, said Frederic, the sparring and mitt work gave him a high-level cardio workout.
“I mean, by the end of it, you’re gassed,” he said. “You gain an appreciation for the people who do that. You go a couple of rounds and you’re just exhausted. We’d be doing the mitt work, and my sweat would be just spraying the guy in the face … and he’d be like, ‘OK, we can stop!’ ”
Once back skating four times a week with NHLers near his home in Chesterfield, Mo., Frederic trimmed back to one boxing workout per week as training camp drew closer.
“The boxing gym and the rink are attached,” he said. “So it’s really nice. You go from the [boxing] workout, then throw your hockey gear [on] and, boom.”
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Post by madmarx on Sept 30, 2022 12:10:31 GMT -5
Trent Frederic went to school over the summer, but class was held on canvas rather than campus. Encouraged by his brother’s love of the sweet science, the 24-year-old center/wing incorporated boxing lessons into his off-ice workouts, sometimes lacing up the gloves three times a week. “Just took it on as another kind of workout,” said Frederic, noting his intention was not to transfer his new skills to the ice sheet. “It’s a lot different than a hockey fight.” Best of all, said Frederic, the sparring and mitt work gave him a high-level cardio workout. “I mean, by the end of it, you’re gassed,” he said. “You gain an appreciation for the people who do that. You go a couple of rounds and you’re just exhausted. We’d be doing the mitt work, and my sweat would be just spraying the guy in the face … and he’d be like, ‘OK, we can stop!’ ” Once back skating four times a week with NHLers near his home in Chesterfield, Mo., Frederic trimmed back to one boxing workout per week as training camp drew closer. “The boxing gym and the rink are attached,” he said. “So it’s really nice. You go from the [boxing] workout, then throw your hockey gear [on] and, boom.” Kinda wished He trained with Shawn Thornton 👊
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Post by kjc2 on Oct 1, 2022 10:24:31 GMT -5
Trent Frederic went to school over the summer, but class was held on canvas rather than campus. Encouraged by his brother’s love of the sweet science, the 24-year-old center/wing incorporated boxing lessons into his off-ice workouts, sometimes lacing up the gloves three times a week. “Just took it on as another kind of workout,” said Frederic, noting his intention was not to transfer his new skills to the ice sheet. “It’s a lot different than a hockey fight.” Best of all, said Frederic, the sparring and mitt work gave him a high-level cardio workout. “I mean, by the end of it, you’re gassed,” he said. “You gain an appreciation for the people who do that. You go a couple of rounds and you’re just exhausted. We’d be doing the mitt work, and my sweat would be just spraying the guy in the face … and he’d be like, ‘OK, we can stop!’ ” Once back skating four times a week with NHLers near his home in Chesterfield, Mo., Frederic trimmed back to one boxing workout per week as training camp drew closer. “The boxing gym and the rink are attached,” he said. “So it’s really nice. You go from the [boxing] workout, then throw your hockey gear [on] and, boom.” I got to think that some of that is transferable. Not so much skill wise but sparring physically improves core strength and upper body flexibility. I messed around with a boxing workout just for fun and not sparring but just throwing punches and by accident I had a ton more strength and follow through in my golf swing, my bat swing and my slap shot. I’m 57 so it’s all relative but the more diversity the better has always been my philosophy.
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Post by nfld77 on Oct 1, 2022 13:33:12 GMT -5
Trent Frederic went to school over the summer, but class was held on canvas rather than campus. Encouraged by his brother’s love of the sweet science, the 24-year-old center/wing incorporated boxing lessons into his off-ice workouts, sometimes lacing up the gloves three times a week. “Just took it on as another kind of workout,” said Frederic, noting his intention was not to transfer his new skills to the ice sheet. “It’s a lot different than a hockey fight.” Best of all, said Frederic, the sparring and mitt work gave him a high-level cardio workout. “I mean, by the end of it, you’re gassed,” he said. “You gain an appreciation for the people who do that. You go a couple of rounds and you’re just exhausted. We’d be doing the mitt work, and my sweat would be just spraying the guy in the face … and he’d be like, ‘OK, we can stop!’ ” Once back skating four times a week with NHLers near his home in Chesterfield, Mo., Frederic trimmed back to one boxing workout per week as training camp drew closer. “The boxing gym and the rink are attached,” he said. “So it’s really nice. You go from the [boxing] workout, then throw your hockey gear [on] and, boom.” I got to think that some of that is transferable. Not so much skill wise but sparring physically improves core strength and upper body flexibility. I messed around with a boxing workout just for fun and not sparring but just throwing punches and by accident I had a ton more strength and follow through in my golf swing, my bat swing and my slap shot. I’m 57 so it’s all relative but the more diversity the better has always been my philosophy. Very interesting stuff..Oh.I got a couple yrs on ya!!! I'll hit the big 6-0 in Feb..I hope..
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Post by kjc2 on Oct 1, 2022 13:49:32 GMT -5
I got to think that some of that is transferable. Not so much skill wise but sparring physically improves core strength and upper body flexibility. I messed around with a boxing workout just for fun and not sparring but just throwing punches and by accident I had a ton more strength and follow through in my golf swing, my bat swing and my slap shot. I’m 57 so it’s all relative but the more diversity the better has always been my philosophy. Very interesting stuff..Oh.I got a couple yrs on ya!!! I'll hit the big 6-0 in Feb..I hope.. You’ll get there 🙂 but no rush, hang on to those 50s!
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Post by nfld77 on Oct 1, 2022 19:03:17 GMT -5
Very interesting stuff..Oh.I got a couple yrs on ya!!! I'll hit the big 6-0 in Feb..I hope.. You’ll get there 🙂 but no rush, hang on to those 50s! Will do brother and you the same!!
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Post by SeaBass on Sept 11, 2023 9:25:25 GMT -5
David Pastrnak’s nine seasons of double-digit goal scoring serve as reliable indicators that, assuming good health, more of the same is pending in 2023-24. You can conduct the same exercise for Hampus Lindholm, Brad Marchand and Charlie McAvoy, the other primary chain-pullers following the exits of Patrice Bergeron and David Krejci.
To a lesser degree of expected production, history shows how Bruins support players such as Charlie Coyle, Jake DeBrusk and Pavel Zacha should perform come the Oct. 11 season opener against the Blackhawks.
There is no such path toward an accurate prediction for Trent Frederic.
Frederic set career highs across the board in 2022-23: goals (17), assists (14), even-strength points (30), shots (120) and ice time (11:55 per game). At five-on-five, he averaged 1.09 goals per 60 minutes of play, per Natural Stat Trick. Only David Pastrnak (1.72), DeBrusk (1.51) and Jakub Lauko (1.23) performed better.
It was, however, only the second time Frederic reached the double-digit point threshold. He was No. 12 among regular forwards in average workload per game. He played most of last season as a wing.
All of this prompts a shrug of the shoulders as to how Frederic will play this year — as a full-time center, no less.
Frederic has always played the part of an up-and-comer. Promise has been a perpetual widget in his profile.
Former Providence Bruins coach Jay Leach identified components of Tom Wilson’s belligerence in Frederic’s game. Ex-coach Bruce Cassidy and current boss Jim Montgomery have praised Frederic’s shot. The abrasive Frederic first made his NHL name in 2020-21 by challenging Wilson, P.K. Subban and Brendan Lemieux, among other combatants.
The thing about Frederic, though, is that potential, by this point of his career, should no longer be part of his package. He is 25, the same age as fellow 2016 draftees and former U.S. National Team Development Program teammates Clayton Keller, Adam Fox and Ryan Lindgren. Those three are in the thick of their NHL sweet spots. Whether Frederic is entering a similar band of productivity is unknown.
One thing is a surety: Frederic will not be an offensive needle-mover like Keller, his fellow St. Louis native. As heavy as his shot may be and as sturdy of a forward as he is, Frederic is not wired with the fast-twitch firepower of a top-line dynamo like Keller. The Bruins are fine with that. Such an ask would be beyond Frederic’s capabilities.
Where the left-shot forward could really help his employer, however, is by growing into a second-line wing or No. 3 center. In the former category, Frederic could join Pastrnak, Marchand and DeBrusk to give Zacha and Coyle much-needed flank support. This would push candidates like Jesper Boqvist, Patrick Brown and James van Riemsdyk toward bottom-six slots, where they would be more favorably placed.
As for center, the Bruins need no reminder that Bergeron’s and Krejci’s retirements have compromised the position. The Bruins require all the help they can get in the middle.
“We wish those guys were back,” Coyle said. “But in the end, you’ve got to turn the page and take advantage of what’s in front of you. There’s a lot of guys who can step up and play certain roles. The guys we lost, you can’t solely replace them. It takes everyone. Everyone’s going to take a step here. Even younger guys who have another year of experience, that’s going to help.”
The Bruins have yet to determine whether Frederic will play center or wing. He is not lobbying for one over the other. It may be a situational decision.
“Everything will kind of play out at camp,” Frederic said after signing his two-year, $4.6 million contract. “I don’t mind playing center or wing. Last year, I pretty much played all three: left wing, center and right. I’m comfortable playing all three now. I actually really liked right wing last year. Kind of the first time doing that, and really liked it. Wherever I find a fit, just try and do my best there.”
Determining how Frederic will produce, regardless of position, is the tricky part.
Zacha, who played most of last year at No. 2 left wing, averaged 16:03 of ice time per game. Coyle, the No. 3 center, was at 16:59 per appearance.
If Frederic earns that kind of increased workload, it’s not guaranteed that his points will rise at the same rate. Whether Montgomery will trust Frederic with more shifts is no lock either. There were times, like the entirety of Round 1, when Frederic’s game went quiet for extended stretches. He did not score a point in the playoffs. Accordingly, his workload dipped to 10:19 per game against the Panthers.
The Bruins’ hope is that Frederic will assert himself offensively to his greatest degree yet in 2023-24. They would be delighted if that becomes the case. If, for example, he earns more ice time — perhaps partly by growing into a second-unit power-play shooter — and makes the most of his shifts, Frederic could break the 50-point threshold for the first time.
“I would like to get involved in special teams in some way,” Frederic said. “I guess that’s all in my play. I’m sure with people moving on or going to different teams that there should be more openings for that than there has been in the past years.”
It would go a long way in helping the Bruins unearth new sources of offense. There is nobody else on the roster who has the size, shot and cruising speed to generate a 61.3 percent increase in scoring from one year to the next.
Such a spike, of course, is theoretical. It will be up to Frederic to make it come to life.
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Post by fforr on Sept 11, 2023 12:40:53 GMT -5
Think there’s even more progress and production to come in Trent’s game. With Looch now aboard he doesn’t have to be the sheriff out there all the time anymore. Have a good feeling about him this year. How bout your 7th Player Award winner this year?
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