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Post by SeaBass on Feb 15, 2012 14:52:50 GMT -5
Sure you would and Marchand would look at you with three heads and say I don't think so coach. and thats whats wrong with claude imo. how many bruins have had their career ended by a cheapshot? whats good for the goose................ I do hope you are kidding....
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Post by blkngld on Feb 15, 2012 15:09:12 GMT -5
and thats whats wrong with claude imo. how many bruins have had their career ended by a cheapshot? whats good for the goose................ I do hope you are kidding.... they were actually playing that way giving back twice as hard as they got and then they started getting hit with the Shanny banhammer ..so now they have been effectively neutered in that regard. I think the days of an eye for an eye are over no player wants to lose 5-10 game checks.
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 15, 2012 15:14:36 GMT -5
I do hope you are kidding.... they were actually playing that way giving back twice as hard as they got and then they started getting hit with the Shanny banhammer ..so now they have been effectively neutered in that regard. I think the days of an eye for an eye are over no player wants to lose 5-10 game checks. Shanny started hitting our guys in the paycheck and we went soft. I just hope we can get back the nasty because we are an average team without it.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 15, 2012 15:16:51 GMT -5
I do hope you are kidding.... they were actually playing that way giving back twice as hard as they got and then they started getting hit with the Shanny banhammer ..so now they have been effectively neutered in that regard. I think the days of an eye for an eye are over no player wants to lose 5-10 game checks. I don't think the Bruins or any other team is going out there to and try to "blow out" someones knee. Just suggesting it is ludicrous.
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Post by offwego on Feb 15, 2012 15:38:45 GMT -5
Sure you would and Marchand would look at you with three heads and say I don't think so coach. and thats whats wrong with claude imo. how many bruins have had their career ended by a cheapshot? whats good for the goose................ sometimes taking the moral high road is the better option in the long run and that is what makes Julian the better man then say that bozo they got behind the bench in Vancouver.
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Post by offwego on Feb 15, 2012 15:39:56 GMT -5
Never thought he overcame the first one when he came back. More perimeter oriented. Probably back for playoffs? who knows. Horton pulled a Marc Savard and came back many months too early with a mushy melon which just put himself in danger. Remember, Bergeron essentially missed a whole year and even when he came back, took it relatively easy for a year before returning to the Bergeron of old. PC seems to think Horton will be back this season. I think that's wishful thinking more than anything. i cerainly hope you are actually 'wrong' this time....
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Post by DonnyBrook on Feb 16, 2012 6:53:06 GMT -5
they were actually playing that way giving back twice as hard as they got and then they started getting hit with the Shanny banhammer ..so now they have been effectively neutered in that regard. I think the days of an eye for an eye are over no player wants to lose 5-10 game checks. I don't think the Bruins or any other team is going out there to and try to "blow out" someones knee. Just suggesting it is ludicrous. give my a break with the road of the rightous here. looks to me like other teams.."goon" players are intentionally targeting, hunting and going out to hurt someone on the bruins and they are. the hits on horton were late and intentional the hit on savard was late and intentional the hit on neely was cheap and intentional the hits on bobby orr's knee were cheap and intentional by the way.....loved marchands low bridge last night. he must of heard me without seeing three heads.
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Post by Losing my mind on Feb 16, 2012 8:20:47 GMT -5
Anybody want to guess how many games Marchand gets for the 'clipping' incident. I have watched the replay several times and still can't find a clip. From what I understand, clipping is hitting at or below the knee, he clearly hits much higher than that, but I guarantee the league won't see it that way.
I say 2 games.
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Post by blkngld on Feb 16, 2012 8:30:19 GMT -5
they were actually playing that way giving back twice as hard as they got and then they started getting hit with the Shanny banhammer ..so now they have been effectively neutered in that regard. I think the days of an eye for an eye are over no player wants to lose 5-10 game checks. I don't think the Bruins or any other team is going out there to and try to "blow out" someones knee. Just suggesting it is ludicrous. actually i was replying to donnie but somehow you got in the middle there.. and no I dont think anyone is going out trying to blow out another players knees. The Bruins have some players who would of in the past physically confronted opposing players for any transgressions to a team mate is all Im saying. They still do to some degree but not to the level it was. The suspensions have reeled that in. There was a time when hockey was a man's sport and you had to be tough to play now they have not only dumbed it down but are softening it up.
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Post by eddy on Feb 16, 2012 8:42:45 GMT -5
Horton pulled a Marc Savard and came back many months too early with a mushy melon which just put himself in danger. Remember, Bergeron essentially missed a whole year and even when he came back, took it relatively easy for a year before returning to the Bergeron of old. PC seems to think Horton will be back this season. I think that's wishful thinking more than anything. i cerainly hope you are actually 'wrong' this time.... I just think he should take his time that's all. He rushed back, in hindsight, clearly too early. PC shouldn't be making comments on his medical condition, he should be finding a replacement for the stretch. The Bs will need it.
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Post by eddy on Feb 16, 2012 8:48:17 GMT -5
Anybody want to guess how many games Marchand gets for the 'clipping' incident. I have watched the replay several times and still can't find a clip. From what I understand, clipping is hitting at or below the knee, he clearly hits much higher than that, but I guarantee the league won't see it that way. I say 2 games. Maybe. Marchands hip caught Elemin in the thigh but he did hit him in the knee. IMO, this was intentional and not at all like like Salo coming in and Marchand reacting. Nobody forechecks with a 'hip check'.
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Post by Peejay on Feb 16, 2012 8:51:42 GMT -5
Anybody want to guess how many games Marchand gets for the 'clipping' incident. I have watched the replay several times and still can't find a clip. From what I understand, clipping is hitting at or below the knee, he clearly hits much higher than that, but I guarantee the league won't see it that way. I say 2 games. Maybe. Marchands hip caught Elemin in the thigh but he did hit him in the knee. IMO, this was intentional and not at all like like Salo coming in and Marchand reacting. Nobody forechecks with a 'hip check'. I'm thinking $2500 fine. Shanny seems to like tacking that on to a warning to make sure it's counted in "incidents" that can be used later.
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Post by capecodder on Feb 16, 2012 9:12:43 GMT -5
I say who gives a f*ck. When and if Shanny reviews Marchy's hit ask every reporter why no boarding call for Thorts and why no knee on knee hit for Pevs. Still ranting, sorry.
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Post by kjc2 on Feb 16, 2012 9:48:49 GMT -5
Maybe. Marchands hip caught Elemin in the thigh but he did hit him in the knee. IMO, this was intentional and not at all like like Salo coming in and Marchand reacting. Nobody forechecks with a 'hip check'. I'm thinking $2500 fine. Shanny seems to like tacking that on to a warning to make sure it's counted in "incidents" that can be used later. Marchand is a solid guy with a low center of gravity, he is listed at 5'9" but I'm not sure he is even that tall. If he stands up straight against a guy on most hits he is getting gloves and stick in the face. Emelin is 6'2" and the only way Marchand comes out on top in that hit is going low but that was thigh/arse level which is legal unless they change the rules.
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Post by fforr on Feb 16, 2012 10:02:05 GMT -5
I don't know if Shanny can not suspend him at this point. Already got 5 games for a similar looking hit that caused injury. Like Eddy mentioned you don't forecheck with hipchecks specially with 1 second in the period. Hope Shanny doesn't listen to our emaciated, all about me color commentator, damaged goods waste of a #1 overall draft pick when we could have had Scott Stevens' view on the hit. Ok I'm done.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Feb 16, 2012 10:06:38 GMT -5
suspend marchand for a hit on a guy that pierre macguire related to ulf samuelson?
hmm..
but the hit on horton (a clear late headshot) goes unoticed by the league.
im so sick of the bullshit. so sick of it.
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Post by Peejay on Feb 16, 2012 10:10:55 GMT -5
I'm reading some tweets that the NHL has looked at the hit and nothing more is expected. Still, I'll be cautiously optimistic until I hear the official word.
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Post by nfld77 on Feb 16, 2012 11:38:38 GMT -5
I'm not surprised...Like I said last night, wasn't worth a conversation. Thorton got boarded,Pevs took a knee on knee, Horton got hit late and we're here nailing one of our own players for piss all..
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Post by Losing my mind on Feb 16, 2012 11:55:49 GMT -5
Glad to hear about the hopeful no suspension, have to agree that you don't forcheck with a hipcheck.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Feb 16, 2012 12:14:59 GMT -5
I'm not surprised...Like I said last night, wasn't worth a conversation. Thorton got boarded,Pevs took a knee on knee, Horton got hit late and we're here nailing one of our own players for piss all.. i agree buddie. i dont see what marchand did as wrong. it was not like the hit against vancouver. he finished a check and the guy had the puck
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Post by nfld77 on Feb 16, 2012 12:50:17 GMT -5
I'm not surprised...Like I said last night, wasn't worth a conversation. Thorton got boarded,Pevs took a knee on knee, Horton got hit late and we're here nailing one of our own players for piss all.. i agree buddie. i dont see what marchand did as wrong. it was not like the hit against vancouver. he finished a check and the guy had the puck It's a kiss on the cheek compared to rape of some of our players. Bruins do the slightest thing and it's attacked by the NHL, Media and members of this board. Yet at the same time, our players are taking hits that's suspendable{at least should be looked at}and no one talks about that and Bruins players are afraid to respond due to Shitaham watching their every move. Like Shanny was a lady Byng candidate himself.
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Post by eddy on Feb 16, 2012 13:01:03 GMT -5
Glad to hear about the hopeful no suspension, have to agree that you don't forcheck with a hipcheck. That and almost no time left in the second is what makes it an obvious attempt to take the guy out. If he doesn't get suspended, I think it sends a pretty clear message that intent doesn't matter because IMO, there was intent on the hit last night that wasn't there on the Salo hit. Basically, it only matters if you injure the guy, which is just as fucking stupid as the old Spin the Wheel 'O Suspension when Soupy Sr. was running the show. Oh, and if you find Emelin laying down some dirty hits - beat the shit out of him. If he does it again, beat the shit out of him again and turn him into a 6 foot pussy just like Lucic did to Homosarek. Speaking of which, it's about damn time Lucic did a number of Piece of Krap Subban.
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Post by DonnyBrook on Feb 16, 2012 14:23:07 GMT -5
^ eddie, we know how the beat the shit out of them works.
they turtle or face wash behind a ref.
im sorry, but if other teams are going to hunt down our top guys then i dont have a problem with these questionable hits.
other teams have taken the liberties and opened the can of worms.
the league cant seem to be consistent with any kind of calls.
horton is out b/c of it and it was a clear violation of the savard rule
i keep bringing it up but.....it still hurts and another good player might be done b/c of it.
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Post by Mr. Poon on Feb 16, 2012 14:30:58 GMT -5
According to the Globe there will officially be no action taken on Marchand by Shanny.
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Post by eddy on Feb 16, 2012 14:40:36 GMT -5
It's not just Boston players that are out because of questionable hits - it happens to every other team in the league.
The Bruins play on the edge and cross over it more than you'd like to think. Just ask a Sabres (or Habs) fan what he thinks of Lucic, or what a Habs fan thinks of Chara, or what a Canucks fan thinks of Marchand, or what a Stars fan thinks of Paille, or what Rangers fans think of Ference. When you play physical, sometimes you cross the line and sometimes have to take your lumps.
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Post by SeaBass on Feb 16, 2012 15:06:52 GMT -5
It's not just Boston players that are out because of questionable hits - it happens to every other team in the league. The Bruins play on the edge and cross over it more than you'd like to think. Just ask a Sabres (or Habs) fan what he thinks of Lucic, or what a Habs fan thinks of Chara, or what a Canucks fan thinks of Marchand, or what a Stars fan thinks of Paille, or what Rangers fans think of Ference. When you play physical, sometimes you cross the line and sometimes have to take your lumps. What!?! It happens to other teams??
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Post by capecodder on Feb 16, 2012 15:20:25 GMT -5
Yeah it happens to other teams, but I think the B's are the only ones to stop hitting because of it and let other teams run them lol........
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Post by eddy on Feb 16, 2012 15:57:15 GMT -5
It's not just Boston players that are out because of questionable hits - it happens to every other team in the league. The Bruins play on the edge and cross over it more than you'd like to think. Just ask a Sabres (or Habs) fan what he thinks of Lucic, or what a Habs fan thinks of Chara, or what a Canucks fan thinks of Marchand, or what a Stars fan thinks of Paille, or what Rangers fans think of Ference. When you play physical, sometimes you cross the line and sometimes have to take your lumps. What!?! It happens to other teams?? Not in Bruins fantasy land it doesn't. For the record, I don't think Lucic bowling over Miller was a dirty play just the outcome was unfortunate. I do think Lucic's cross check to Max Lapierre's face was dirty...but also totally AWESOME. Chara's hit on Max Peckerheady was probably intentional to the point of wanting to ring his bell but not break his neck. IMO, Paille's hit was dirty, so was Ference's, and Marchand has crossed the line a few times.
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Post by nfld77 on Feb 16, 2012 15:57:41 GMT -5
It's not just Boston players that are out because of questionable hits - it happens to every other team in the league. The Bruins play on the edge and cross over it more than you'd like to think. Just ask a Sabres (or Habs) fan what he thinks of Lucic, or what a Habs fan thinks of Chara, or what a Canucks fan thinks of Marchand, or what a Stars fan thinks of Paille, or what Rangers fans think of Ference. When you play physical, sometimes you cross the line and sometimes have to take your lumps. Hab fans are full of shit and Lucic or Chara dont have to cross the line and very seldom do..
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Post by madmarx on Feb 16, 2012 16:55:57 GMT -5
The Good news is no Jail Time for Marchand , Bad News is Marchand scratches His Ass it will be reviewed..
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